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Now Garou Boy, don't hate on Bleach. Bleach is pretty ok for what it is, it's no Garouden/Baki, and doesn't try to be. Naruto is just pure shit. The best storyline was the country of waves arc right at the BEGINNING. Now there's more story holes than swiss cheese, several retcons or outright debunking of previously esablished canon, ANBUS drop like Maggots, Storyline characters who SHOULD be stronger come and go flying out the window, the anime had that godawful filler saga(s)....just ugh.


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I actually don't mind Bleach, the story and characters are interesting. I was just using it as an example of a mainstream manga that gets it's RAWs posted way faster than Baki/Garouden.

Has anyone noticed how much smaller Baki has gotten in the series? In the Maximum Tournament he had way bigger muscles than he has now. It seems like after he was poisoned and recovered in the Raitai tournament he never regained his size back.


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in spite of the lack of new chapters i tought to share my thoughts ...
Well it looks like Yujiro recognized baki as a fighter and soon they will have a match(vol 31).Yujiro beat baki when he was 13, when he was 17 in tha maximum arena with one finger, in the chinese tournament thru the walls ,everytime without breaking a sweat showing baki that he's far from him.Nowadays(pickle days) i dont know what Itagaki's thoughts are,because this character is here for a reason,a hardcore fight. i dont know if this is going to be another fighter with certain skills that one way or another is going to be defeated and forgetten on the way.Maybe Jack will fight,maybe Yujiro who showed respect for this caveman,maybe Baki...for Retsu.Anyway ,so we are far from the end of this manga so i can try some predictability...hate me.Yujiro will fight Baki soon and defeat him and being unsatified will kill kozue to make baki mad for killing another loved person ,so baki s desire to defeat him will be bigger the trainings will be harder.

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reichan ask me to post this here, 'cause he can't do it.

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The Baki chapters are finally up on Rawparadise. Looks like the Shinshikai are pulling another "Dorian"...


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yep, but Pickle is roaming around the streets, he knows by instinct he needs to imitate his surroundings in order to blend with the landscape.
Garou boy you are really observant, maybe we gonna have another take at Baki the hero, maybe the whole series will end in a full worldwide Raitai with KAKU Kaioh and even Pickle participating.


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harumagedon a écrit:
yep, but Pickle is roaming around the streets, he knows by instinct he needs to imitate his surroundings in order to blend with the landscape.
Garou boy you are really observant, maybe we gonna have another take at Baki the hero, maybe the whole series will end in a full worldwide Raitai with KAKU Kaioh and even Pickle participating.


Pickle disguising himself didn't last very long...it's not really possible for him to blend in. The Shinshinkai will probably find him right away. Time for katsumi to get eaten I think?

Although chapter 108 seems to feature Hanamyama, so maybe he'll run into him, it makes sense given the area he's in.


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It's not the first time Hanayama take on "monsters" so I tell you, It is a tempting encounter to see, hanayama has been missing lately from the series since is so busy getting shaken off in his own spinoff!!!


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In the Garou world, it's about time Fujimaki gets to fight Himekawa. I hope he kills him in all honesty.


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Ichido asked me to put his edition with French translations, but he chose not to complete it for a discussion that we had about TopHunter's accurate translations. The translations are understable, but the quality of the cultural context and professionalism of the translations are substandard. Anyone with babelfish or some kind of mechanical translator can do this because there is no presence of the human translator. There are incomplete sentences and there is little or no grammar in the dialogue. I speak, read, and write fluent French and I am disappointed in the translations, but since they are for free, what can you expect. There is no reason to complain about the Wild Fang Project's methods because the members pay for the quality, and its entertaining. It is not translated by only one, it has the input of many. Translating in a literal sense is absolutely the worst way to translate for a colloquial manga or any other kind of literature. The dialogue is lost and so is the intent of the author. Bringing morals or work ethic to the table is preposterous considering the nature of what we are ALL doing on the Internet. I am not complainig to Tophunter about his mangas. He can do whatever he likes, he is not charging for his project's. But no one is in any position to accuse or condemn on the basis of ethics. If we were all upstanding citizens of the consumer world, we wouldn't be illegally translating Mr. Keisuke's creative works. Especially the French speaking people receive Mr. Keisuke's licensed books with translations approved by Japan itself and therefore can legally buy and contribute to further creations by Itagaki Keisuke. For example, in one manga translation of TopHunter I noticed that some of the dialogue was extraordinarily simple and literal from the original Japanese:
"Vivant au Nord-Ouest de la Siberie . Le Tigre de Siberie , le plus grand des Felins existant sur terre ."

(It lives Northwest of the Sibera. The Tiger of Siberia, the large cat on earth that exists.)

Would you prefer the translation above, which is coherent but not appealing to the English-speaking readers or comfortable to the readers? Or the translation below by Wild Fang Project?


(It lives Northwest of the Siberia. The Tiger of Siberia, the greatest of all the feline descendants that ever existed on earth.)


Now the last argument that I stress, Tophunter made an argument that the author's original background for the "Jun Gevaru" character was of Japanese descendant and all his martial arts was derived from his father's samurai experiences. This of course is based of Ernesto "Che" Guevara de la Serna of Argentina. Now, the Wild Fang Project chose to edit this character's background for entertainment and the mere fact the members were not comfortable with the author's choice, so they chose to make this character more accurate to the real one. Now, imagine, Emmanuel D'Astier de la Vigerie, a hero of the Resistance during the Nazi-occupation, would be portrayed as an American rebel from a wealthy background and because of the fact that an American made the manga, the French hero is now American with a wealthy past... very pleasing to the author yeah? But I can see both sides of the Wild Fang Project's argument and TopHunter's, but both are correct and both are wrong. No one is free of guilt on this website and no one is innocent when is comes to consuming on the Internet because it is currently an unregulated forum, it's one of the last Wild West of the world. Each project and project-handler will see fit how to entertain and serve their constituents. So enjoy the ride. I love France, I love the French language and I love baguettes...so "...there is no Canada like French-Canada, and the other Canada is a bullshit Canada!"


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Garouden_08
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?d24exmtmtgd

Garouden_10
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ucngbyyvdtb

Scarface_01
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zkqzt7fjm0f


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Tophunter, I respect the fact that you spend your time translating things for us, but sometimes you really piss me off with your arrogant attitude.


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hahaha, you are just one, tophunter, wild fang has 12 translators and believe it or not, the translations between you and ichido's are very similar, a few differences here and there, but you are not the king of grammar for saying, but why you never pointed differences, and also, why you never answered when he posted a piece of Grappler Baki? mistakes? additions? nothing at all.

Ichido started 4 years ago and finished Baki the search of our strongest hero 1-31 plus 6 books of Son of ogre, also BAKI SAGA that france will not publish, also 10 books of garouden and one of scarface...how many books those are? yeah, a lot of work, dont you think, and by the way we dont sell anything, the books are paid before they are out, no selling here, only donations are what keep the WFP alive .

he asked me to join because he wanted to start the french edition as thanks for the raws he is using right now, but sadly we cant use your french translations until someone properly edits it, nor you not this forum wants to help on anything and your translations sounds like a japanese person just learnt french, you should check your grammar and context seriously Tophunter, at least ichido makes sounds his mangas like people from around the globe.

At first I thought Ichido was full of crap until I joined the group, and he tends to get cocky around, but the WFP offers awesome speed, good edition and sincerelly, the whole group is commited to complete series when Each and ONE offers to buy ONE book translation and make the group happens, ichido didnt want to ask us for more money and thats why he accepted a crapload of new members that gave us more resources that we can possibly want, but everytime we accept a new member, we risk that one out of the 160 members give away the work like you do, okay, is fine, we are not stopping there, the books were paid and done, but you cant deny the fact that the commitment level here is way more than the one you are so proud giving away, you are translating SON OF OGRE out of pride and not because you sincerely like it, also GAROUDEN, 5 books translation were donated by Ichido himself (not leaked) in exchange for some cooperation, but you guys wanted more and only 3 were released, and the rest were stolen, since when Garouden and Son of ogre have been released here? and suddenly now you want to race your way out of what Ichido has finished? did you noticed when the WFP finished baki? from July 2007 to December 2007.

Keep badmouthing him, he was banned and he expected to give this forum something back in exchange of the raws, but I told him no, because the script is lacking a lot, I hope DELCOURT also releases Son of ogre so people can also compare your work.

And for the record, france keeps changing the names of so many series in the past like HOLY E BENJI instead of Ozora tsubasa or the names of LE COLLEGE FOU FOU FOU, please tell me what were the french names of Uru chie and Kawa Yui?

La bande de Rei, bien sûr! C'est la grande particularité de l'établissement : Une bande de cancres retardataires aux visages ingrats et à l'humour dévastateur. C'est la bande des joyeux loufoques, composée de Rei leur chef, Ted (Mr gros catcheur poilu), Jeannot (obsédé par les jupes des filles), Dan (quelque peu efféminé) et Jim (un estomac unique). Leur passe temps favoris est d'organiser (ou d'improviser) des parties de remue-ménage à la moindre occasion, au détriment des professeurs, qui sont eux mêmes plus ou moins frappés.

Rei, Ted, jeannot, dan, Jim instead of Ichido Rei, monohoshi Dai, Reitesu Go, Daima Jin and shusse Kiyoshi...you guys started changing the names first, and you make a big fuss now?


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Like i said in the french topic, in this forum people are here to speak about the manga, not for attak the job of other team.
So tophunter if you have some remark about WFP job, do it on their forum not here!
Now everyone i ask you to speak about Baki or Garoden!
If you have thing to say each other use PM.

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but sadly we cant use your french translations until someone properly edits it, nor you not this forum wants to help on anything

I want specify that RSF isn't a scantrad team!
Some people here do translation, a lot of member are translator or editor in diferent french or american team, but RSF is not a scantrad team.

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Sorry About that KiruaEkichi :wink: Message removed.

Garouden 06:

http://www.mediafire.com/?djxj919o1lp


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Thank you KiruaEikichi, finally we can get back to talking about Baki/Garoden like we're supposed to on this topic...

Anyway, I'm really excited for the Hanayama/Pickle showdown. Maybe the Shinshikai and Hanayama will both try fighting Pickle at the same time and all get beat (and possibly eaten?)


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found some sort of imdb of japan and Garouden the movie is listed

http://movie.goo.ne.jp/movies/PMVWKPD27850/

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Oh my gosh!!! Group TAC and FREE WILL just announced a new season for BAKI THE SEARCH OF OUR STRONGEST HERO!!! watch the teaser here!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

I love the new designs for baki and hanayama, but the prisoners look a little rough for me, check it out!!!


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Dammit Harumagedon, I was really excited there for a moment! :lol:


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i thought of sharing some covers of garouden in better resolution

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all of them

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thanks guy!
most of them r beautiful !! :wink:

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Those Garouden covers are beautiful, it's so different from Itegaki's interpretation of the characters. Where is Fujimaki Jyuzo?


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The novels are very old, the original illustrations were done by Yoshitaka Amano (Final fantasy, vampire hunter D) at the same time Itagaki recreated the characters to a more "baki" look.



the manga so far has been covering the following books:

Novel 1: Fujiwara vs Tanba, Tanba vs the small bald guy

Novel 2: Tanba vs Fujimaki "the fake tanba" deal, and a few encounters

Novel 3: The Great Tatsumi past, the complete crybaby sakura incident.

Novel 4: Tanba vs Jyohei Tsutsumi the complete battle

Novel 5: Great tatsumi vs others, preliminars on the tournament

Novel 6: ?

Novel 7: profit


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Anyone been keeping up to date on the newer baki figs?

http://www.baki.ne.jp/

Been watching them so I can see about scooping them up as soon as they are released, that way I don't end up scrapping fruitlessly like I did the Fewture Models line.


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範馬刃牙 第110話/通行止め

ぶちきれたヤクザのパンチを顔面で受け止め、その腕を握りつぶす。
足止めしようと攻撃する寺田を、一発で沈める。
だが、そうしてその場に興味を失いかけたピクルを花山は止めた。

独歩「フフ……」「化けるかもな」


episode 110/ Road blocked .....

Pickle Getting punched from the mad Yakuza. Hanayama Punch get stopped right on his face and his fist get crushed by Pickle.

Terada is trying to hold from his attack,but Pickle crushed him with on punch .... however, Hanayama stopped Pickle who had almost lost his interests on this place ( Fight ).


独歩「フフ……」「化けるかもな」 :

DOPPO OROCHI : "He may be going to transform ....."


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Hi Friends Again!

I like to thank you for the links of Baka Sone Of Ogre from http://www.raw-paradise.com/

I started to read chapter 102 and I had some questions: mainly, why does Retsu - san has one of his legs in the bandage?

Sorry, last time I read it stopped at vol.11. after Yujiro put his fist in the face of Picul.

BTW, I just had some idea it would be funny if Baka yaoi Picul LOL! :wink:


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Pickle ate one of Retsu legs after the end of their fight. If you missed that fight you should look for it; it was really a good one. :wink:

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Femdom, Retsu went to mitsunari, claiming that siberian tigers were not enough to test pickle true force, he claimed that if he lost the fight, he would allow Pickle to "eat him if he wanted it to" and the bet was on, the scientists were eager to see if 4000 years of chinese history were a match for the prehistorical survival techniques of 65.000.000 years ago, so everyone wanted to see this battle.

Pickle started crying for the emotional fact that he respect other "humans" and by his instincts, in the past he had to ate friends and people he respected and was fond of, but he had to fight against, in the prehistory, if you lose a battle you were eated, it was a normal outcome, even for pickle's friends back in the dinosaur era.

At the same time, Retsu grew frustrated for the fact that the 4000 years of history was doing nothing against Pickle, and the heroic name that was given to him (Retsu Kai-oh the ferocius king of the sea, instead of Retsu Xiaolong) was the only thing he felt he needed to protect at all costs, but since his techniques were doing almost nothing, he forgot all his techniques on purpose and went on brute force, he had to use the "windmill punch" that is a barrage of punches without direction or power calculation, this was a clear lack of respect for his art and mitsunari felt embarrased that retsu had to resort on such pitiful technique but suddenly, the body of retsu started moving on its own, it was the subconscious Retsu "spirit of fighting" that he couldnt let go no matter what, "Retsu, I am the one you want to become" and retsu believed again and took by heart the core of his skills, but the fierce attack did nothing to Pickle since he used to walk in four legs, pickle attacks were "anti bipedal" like lions or bulls, and pickle charged forward with the only prehistorical attack that was useful, Retsu expected to contain it with the technique of "Tsuki" but the charge was greater and the attack won against the counterattack.

when retsu was inconscious, Pickle cried even more and went to end the fight like he always does, mitsunari opposing the idea of pickle eating retsu, went to stop and defend the helpless retsu only to be tossed out and there you can see the difference that separates Pickle from the rest of the modern humans, he fights and eat for survival, when Humans just fight for validation and wont eat a fellow human that they defeated, that kind of hunger separates pickle from the rest, but the heart of pickle aches even more because he appreciates retsu too.

But when retsu wakes up, he claims "this is not over yet!!" and remember that he promised pickle that he can be eaten if he lost, was he planning to break the promise from the beggining? the shoulder and the leg was his price for losing, but inside he knew that even if he lost he assumed he would not be eaten, so he painfully realizes that he needs to learn humility.

when Baki visits him, retsu confesses that he wasnt mad because he lost part of his body, or that his techniques were useless, but because he told people that he was brave and ready when clearly he was not, and he was ashamed because he didnt really commited when he say to put his own body and life on the line, Baki say he researched Retsu's true name in chinese characters to find the meaning that he's Unable to give up no matter what, and that he should live accordingly on his true feelings, and that the devotion was the one that raised retsu and enlighten him, he told him "never lose your devotion, that is your true strenght" and Retsu thank him from the bottom of his heart....

Baki then discovers that when Yuujiro claimed that he would "EAT" his enemies, it was a figure of speech, but Pickle took this to a whole new level that baki has yet to discover, this ignites even more the flame of Baki inside to fight him, not for revenge or hate, but for a new level of fighting throughout history.

and also, KATSUMI ordered all the shinshinkai to capture pickle cause he was going to kill him and eat him alive too, going against the wishes of Orochi doppo's school of karate that he would not eat meat.

I hope this makes it clear for you.

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Thanks for this complete summary Strahl.


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Hey, Strahl you'r really helpfull , Thanks a lot for your translation :D

I'm going to translatate #108 and #109 summary next week, from Heiji-sama links . I was wondering if Harumagedon could translate the french translation to English .

What do you think about that Harumagedon ? Could you do that ?



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Pickle ate one of Retsu legs after the end of their fight. If you missed that fight you should look for it; it was really a good one.


Thanks for this info!

are the scans of this fight somwhere to be found?


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Thanks for this complete summary Strahl.

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Excellent summary, Dude!
I learnt a lot of things about this fight today!!
Thanks a lot!! :wink:

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Pickle ate one of Retsu legs after the end of their fight. If you missed that fight you should look for it; it was really a good one.


Thanks for this info!

are the scans of this fight somwhere to be found?


You'r welcome,

here we go Femdom,............

enjoy :wink:

http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=UTF4KWQ7


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hey guys a favor for me too, can someone give me a link for the Grappler BAKI OST? (music cd) also for the single AI BELIEVE and ALL ALONE.

Did you guys know that on the second season of the anime BAKI THE GRAPPLER (first episode) you can see a glipse of SPECK in the list of fighters that Mitsunari is listing?

also, did you know that the story of RETSU KAIOU that is depicted on Baki the search of our strongest hero, is fully animated in the second season of Grappler Baki? and that Oliva appears in the anime when in that manga chapter he never appears, they were giving you hints of an eventual 3rd season of anime.

Im glad I found this forum :)

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Thanks TopHunter!
Your the Best :D

Strahl, if You can tell me your email I can sent you "Ai believe" as well as "all alone".


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hey guys a favor for me too, can someone give me a link for the Grappler BAKI OST? (music cd) also for the single AI BELIEVE and ALL ALONE.

Did you guys know that on the second season of the anime BAKI THE GRAPPLER (first episode) you can see a glipse of SPECK in the list of fighters that Mitsunari is listing?

also, did you know that the story of RETSU KAIOU that is depicted on Baki the search of our strongest hero, is fully animated in the second season of Grappler Baki? and that Oliva appears in the anime when in that manga chapter he never appears, they were giving you hints of an eventual 3rd season of anime.

Im glad I found this forum :)


Yes we already chatted about the anime series in the french topic...
For the OST just click on the link below::wink:
http://www.mediafire.com/?0li5nnkzebj

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