Baki/Garoden - Keisuke Itagaki (For English-speaking)

[firedauz]

Baki is so great, even without understanding, I just loved looking at the actions in those raw images

[tophunter]

The reason why Katsumi feels so desperate :

flashback :

Chapitre # 86 / Chapitre # 107 :

YUJIRO :

Parceque Tu n'es ni un adversaire pour moi,ni pour BAKI , ni meme pour ton PERE .Tu agis sans reflechir ,en pensant que tu va y arriver sans meme etablir de plan; malgre le presentiment de la defaite.

Ton pere aussi , auparavant, avait agit ,par megarde,de la meme facon en faisant de l'esbroufe.


D'ailleurs lui aussi a echapper une mort certaine avec l'espoir de pouvoir etre aider.


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Page 11 :

YUJIRO : VA JOUER DANS UN COIN AU AYATORI !! (VA JOUER AILLEURS !)

Thanks again ASMODEAL

YUJIRO :

Because you are no match for me, baki or even your father. You act without thinking, without planing you believe you will succeed despite the feel of defeat.

Your father did the same once, he acted as you do now, bluffing, showing off.

In fact he also escaped a certain death while wishing to be helped.

Completely struck by those accurate words, the young karateka was left without choices.

Page 11 :
Go play ayatori...( Go play somewhere else)

Dernière édition par tophunter le 15 Juil 2008 20:01, édité 1 fois.

[tophunter]

Weekly boy champion N°26

#113 “love”
愚地克巳はいらない子扱い。

なんとなくわからなくも無いけど。
　でもさあ、前作の「BAKI」だと、見せ場はあったんだよ。
　決めるところは決めてたんだよ。
　作者は、愚地克巳をどのように見てるのか考えてしまうけど。
　２代目ってのは先代と比較されがちでそのため、功績は過少に失態は過大に見らがちのような。
　今回は、見せ場が多いためにそれをあえて描く展開なんだろうか？

#113 “love”

愚地克巳はいらない子扱い。:
Orochi Katsumi is an abused child.

なんとなくわからなくも無いけど。 (nanto nakuwa kara naku mo nai kedo?)
It's not exactly written but you kind of understand it.

でもさあ、前作の「BAKI」だと、見せ場はあったんだよ。 (demo sâ, zensaku no baki dato, misebawa atta n dayo)
But in baki there was shocking scenes.

決めるところは決めてたんだよ。
But i was not random, those heroic acts were well scheduled.

作者は、愚地克巳をどのように見てるのか考えてしまうけど。
How does the author see Orochi Katsumi.

２代目ってのは先代と比較されがちでそのため、功績は過少に失態は過大に見らがちのような。
The second generation (Katsumi Orochi) is always looked down compared to the first (Doppo Orochi) whatever they do.
Instead theirs mistakes are stigmatized and theirs prowess diminished or overlooked.

今回は、見せ場が多いためにそれをあえて描く展開なんだろうか？
Will the author show us the climax of the fighting and the next of events. We will know soon.


Thank you Asmodeal ^^, tophunter

[tophunter]

Weekly boy champion No.21+22


範馬刃牙 #109 " two strange people"
　愚地克己が、愚地独歩のスキを突いて倒すのは、常時戦場をモットーにしてる以上問題なし。
　でも、ピクルに返り討ちにあう気がしてならないのは何故だろう？
　そして、花山薫。
　強い相手が、大好きという点ではピクルと同じか。
　でも、ピクルの場合は文字通り食べちゃいたいくらいなんだよね。

愚地克己が、愚地独歩のスキを突いて倒すのは、常時戦場をモットーにしてる以上問題なし。

OROCHI KATSUMI, profitant d'un moment d'inattention de son Pere OROCHI DOPPO , reussit a le vaincre .Pour Katsumi Orochi ce n'est pas un probleme , c'est un adepte des champs de bataille .

でも、ピクルに返り討ちにあう気がしてならないのは何故だろう？
KATSUMI:" Je ne sais pas pourquoi , mais j'ai l'impression qu'il va m'attaquer "

そして、花山薫。
C'est alors qu'intervient HANAYAMA KAORU.

強い相手が、大好きという点ではピクルと同じか。
Pickle comme Hanayama ont le meme point commun, ils adorent se battre contre de puissants adversaires.

でも、ピクルの場合は文字通り食べちゃいたいくらいなんだよね。
Mais , dans le cas de Pickle , ce n'est pas qu'il adore les puissants adversaires, c'est qu'il veut les manger.




Sur la photo : Pickle vs Hanayama

俺のこと好きなのだ。

PICKLE : ( il m'aime,ou quoi ?)




TRADUCTION DU SPOIL DE FUJITAK # 109:

愚地克己が、愚地独歩のスキを突いて倒すのは、常時戦場をモットーにしてる以上問題なし。

OROCHI KATSUMI, using OROCHI DOPPO moment of inattention, manages to beat him.
It's not a problem for katsumi, he is accustomed to battlefield.

でも、ピクルに返り討ちにあう気がしてならないのは何故だろう？
KATSUMI: I don't know why, but i feel like he is going to attack me.

そして、花山薫。
That's when HANAYAMA KAORU appears.

強い相手が、大好きという点ではピクルと同じか。
Both Pickle and Hanayama share the same habit, they love to fight strong opponent.

でも、ピクルの場合は文字通り食べちゃいたいくらいなんだよね
But in pickle's case, it's not he likes to fight them, he likes to eat them.

俺のこと好きなのだ。 (ore no koto suki nanoda)
Does he love me?


Merci ASMODEAL

[Steel]

Hey, I started Baki: Son of Ogre recently and raw-paridise doesn't have the chapters anymore. So can anyone tell me where to get Chapters #97-99, #106-111, #113, #115+

[Silviu]

old covers

[asmodeal]

In the top left corner in red.
The best fighting manga. Thx for Pickle popularity.
SON OF OGER : HANMA BAKI

EPISODE 116 / STOICAL SPIRIT. (COOL SPIRIT)

烈火の如く　駆ける様

The way he runs, as a flame…
(But If I were to translate it directly from Japanese I’ll say:
Running as a raging fire)
獲物をおう野獣がことく

…As a wild animal pursuing his prey.
OROCHI KATSUMI, this man is defying the wild Pickle, Pickle who is able to send Baki flying with a single kick.
What burns in this man heart?
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Bottom of the page.
BAKI THE GRAPPLER Complete edition vol13 and 14
HAMMA BAKI vol.13
Now on sell !!
TAGAKI Keisuke
CGart / SAITO Naoki

[Staff ITAGAKI] URAHIDE Mitsu, SHIBUYA Toru R, OTSUGANDAMUYOROSHIKU, YUI, HAMASAKI AYUMI JAPAN, UTSUKI Toru, TACHI Hideaki
In the top right corner :

KATSUMI, the climax fight of his life
Finally the fight between KATSUMI and PICKLE is starting.




Page 01 :
Title
Summary:
Restu who appeared sundenly at the dojo said to Katsumi: “You will not win against PICKLE”, and he offered him to merge 4000 years of Chinese’s martial arts with 500 years old Karate. After Katsumi declined, Retsu still insisted to help him evolve his Karate… Katsumi accepted. The 501 years of Karate begins… !!

Words written on the wall can be even more vulgar
Die Baki
Just die
Gay
Fuck you
Poor Baki, he was the seventh to be beaten.
I challenge you.
You are doomed.
You piss me off.
Go away.
I break your balls.
I bury you.




Page 03 :

Baki :
… He beat me but I was not ready to fight !
… Without reason or care, he attacked me !!?!
… Of course this way my pathetic defeat was unavoidable.

HANMA YUJIYRO :

« … He may be my son but he disgusts me ! I Loathe him as well as his optimism and softness”.



Page 04:
Tokugawa :

[Silviu]

any new garouden chapters?

[dambosss]

Nope, nothing new, and no news from Volume 22 either.

[asmodeal]

116 continuing.




Page 04:
Tokugawa : Isn't it a bit too much to speak this way?


Tokugawa : Baki must have done his best

Hanma Yujiro :

Is even the head of Tokugawa zaibatsu becoming soft?
(Tophunter : zaibatsu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaibatsu )
Bottom page:
This work is purely fictional. It does not relate to anyone or organization really existing.



Page 05 :

HANMA YUJIRO :

Do your best,
Do everything possible,
Keep doing efforts,
Those words are for looser.
There is a world where words can’t achieve anything.
And you dare to tell me what I already learn during my long life. Try to content myself with such pretexts and I’ll twist your neck jiji.



Page 06 :

Tokugawa :Wait… No… forgive me.



Page 07 :

HANMA YUJIRO : Anyway Jiji, Baki is so lucky.
Tokugawa : ... ?

HANMA YUJIRO:

Even if it was brief, he got a taste of this wild being.
Now this little brat will withstand some restless nights!! HA!HA!HA

[asmodeal]

116 continuing

Page 08 :



なアんて
言ってるん
だろうな
あの
フヌケめ
って
眠れないや
当分
教えて
くれたん
だ
話すことさえ
できない

BAKI :.　What must he say?
This coward.
I will not be able to sleep at night for a while.
He taught me
Despite the fact that he can't even speak.

Page 09 :



あの雄(おとこ) が
あなんに雄(ゆう)弁に

In fact this guy is eloquent.


Page 10 :



あれで十分
十分に堪能した
彼が何者で
どれほどのもの
なのか

Baki : I got enough, it was satisfying enough.
Baki: But who is this guy?
Baki: How is he?


Page 11:




なった一パツで
類友だ
ごく
超えられる

Baki : .... This print is the mark of our friendship.

Baki : ....Can i surpass myself, exceed my capacities?

Page 12:




あの碩域を
このままでほ
決して行 けぬ
と予と感 ていた
あの碩域へ

Baki : ....(cry of pain) !!!!!...

Baki : This level... is the level I thought i was never going to surpass, heh.

Page 13:



アイシとならぼ
超えられるシシ

Baki : With him i'll surpass level ｌ!!!

Page 14:

たしか
このよな
ものだつたな

通称
マシハ突き

[tophunter]

Je trouve que ton englais surpasse de loin les texte de wilfang asmodeal.

Asmosdeal your translation sounds better than those from wildfang , I can tell you that your understanding is perfect .

I really appreciate your work, It's a real pleasure to work with you .

So , I think we can even translate all the old chapiters that we did in french if you want of course .

from 90 to 100 . Could you make it ?

I hope English members will be satisfied , right .

English members just tell me if you dont care at all . We will saved or time . But I want you to know that we are trying to do our best to not discriminate anybody who like BaKi son of oger 's manga .

Now I ask you to show yourselself and to say something about our initiative .

Dernière édition par tophunter le 17 Juil 2008 15:41, édité 1 fois.

[firedauz]

As an English member, I support any initiative for Grappler Baki
I even have a thread in Dynamite Glove dedicated to Baki, and if you read the thread, I also have a Shibukawa Gouki's figurine



--> http://westbound.proboards34.com/index. ... hread=3692

[asmodeal]

Well thx tophunter.

But honestly i don't think that my translations are that great, i don't really try to make them perfect in fact. I must say that's a little bit tricky too to translate from a native language to another one, the inverse is easier.

It's just speed translations to help understand a little bit the action, and indeed i wonder if it's really necessary as i can't even tell if someone reads them.

I also want to say that the french translations is not always easy to understand either, so i try to get the meaning directly from japanese which is quite hard because of my poor knowledge of it.
And it's quite time consuming, so translating chapters 90 to 100 is a possibility but it will be purposeless if there is no one or very few to read them. On top of that i think that a translation of a translation, both (excuse me tophunter) being quite rough, is not the best thing to do.

So even thought wild fang project translations take a while to came out it could be a better idea to wait for them.

Or even better ask an existing team, or make a dedicated new one, to translate this great manga with an english-speaking japanese translator (hard to find i know).
I don't want to spill more oil on the fire (dunno if it's also an english saying) but it's a pity wild fang project uses these strange way of release, since i will love, as every others baki fans, to be able to read translated chapters every week.

[Garou BOY]

Firedauz, where did your get your Shibukawa figure from? I can't find the new figures anywhere!

[firedauz]

I'm staying in Tokyo. I bought it at the Toys R Us nearby my house.
(I think Toys R Us are also part of the figurine's team since their logo is on the box).

Thought of buying Doppo as well, but these figurines are hell expensive LOL
Btw, the Doppo figure is just the same as Shibukawa: he is made as the stance before delivering the final punch to Shibukawa

[kramsy]

If only i had the scripts for all volumes after 1-5 of hanma baki, I'd download the raw and edit the text myself. waiting for WFP sucks big time

[kramsy]

I dont know french but I could help fix the broken english translations

[tophunter]

I dont know french but I could help fix the broken english translations

Just give a Try Kramsy !! do not hesitate , just go-ahead !

[tophunter]

chapter 117 is out

http://rapidshare.com/files/130667802/b ... 7.rar.html

[j_cups1]

Does anyone know if there are French scanlations of Son of Ogre, chapters 39 and up?

[Nine]

I just returned from vacations and read the translation plans for Baki.
Good job guys.

[tophunter]

Does anyone know if there are French scanlations of Son of Ogre, chapters 39 and up?

http://ritualscan2.free.fr/viewtopic.php?t=18&start=0

http://ritualscan2.free.fr/viewtopic.php?t=945&start=0

http://ritualscan2.free.fr/viewtopic.php?t=61

[asmodeal]

116 continuing

Page 14 :



Restu : I think it was like this


Retsu : This is called the "mach punch" (tophunter : SONIC FIST)

Page 15 :



Retsu : This is the only one of of your technique that surprised me.

Retsu : Sa puissance prend naissance a 2 endroits precis, les gros orteils .
It's power rise from too distinct spots, the big toes (hallux).

Retsu : Using your ankle, you raise the speed.

Retsu : The power and speed are then projected to the knees increasing it even more.
Retsu :

Again speed up by hipe's joint at kidney level, the speed is then amplified by the spinal colunm....

Page 16 :



Retsu :
...then the soulders , the elbows, the wrist and finally by the fist.

Retsu: Once i saw you throw this attack against Mr Hanyama.

Dernière édition par asmodeal le 20 Juil 2008 23:35, édité 2 fois.

[j_cups1]

Thanks tophunter.

[dambosss]

http://www.raw-paradise.com/Ritual/Miseajour.htm

It's Christmas mates.

[tophunter]

http://www.raw-paradise.com/Ritual/Miseajour.htm

It's Christmas mates.

Hell Yea !! That's gonna be a day to remember FOLKS !!!!

Just check this OUT RIGHT NOW !!!!!

Dernière édition par tophunter le 29 Juil 2008 00:20, édité 1 fois.

[kiryu]

there are also the new garoden chapters!!

Arigato Heiji sama !!

[asmodeal]

116 finishing (finally)

Page 17 :


Retsu :

I must tell you that i was even frightened by it.

I told you then that we had gone beyond this level already for 2 thousand years.

Page 18 :


Retsu :

Well that it is true but in fact even i don't master this technique but as a demonstration and i didn't use it in actual combat.

Retsu : I was only able to win the fight thanks to fighting tactic.

Page 19:


Retsu :

Between you and i, our skills are not as different as what this fight showed.

Retsu :

For all those years and history of chinese martial arts, if someone is able to practice this technique it must be this man....

Page 20 :


Restu :

Katsumi-san,
Dont' you want to improve this technique?
Make it even faster than it is now.
Even swifter!

Restu : Entrust it to the heaven gifted man, the only one able to handle it.

Titles :

The fusion techniques of 4000 and 500 years.
A new technique , "SONIC FIST" which will even shake chinese martial arts.

[tophunter]

(Tophunter : )

Dernière édition par tophunter le 25 Juil 2008 21:25, édité 2 fois.

[asmodeal]

I was wondering, maybe we could ask an american japanese translator to review this translation, not actually translate it but maybe check if there are some big mistakes.

Well now tophunter thx to heiji and the anonymous scanners there are 3 more chapters to translate, gambatte.

[tophunter]

I was wondering, maybe we could ask an american japanese translator to review this translation, not actually translate it but maybe check if there are some big mistakes.

Well now tophunter thx to heiji and the anonymous scanners there are 3 more chapters to translate, gambatte.

That's a good idea , the best thing to do is to ask to wildfang members opinions . Actually even reichan might check this forum everyday too . Even if I'm not agree with him , i still appreciate is work . So I'm gonna send him this message through MP.

Dernière édition par tophunter le 29 Juil 2008 00:19, édité 1 fois.

[asmodeal]

I was thinking of someone from manga helpers.

[Silviu]

thank you for the raws ...much apreciated!
himekawa defeated fujimaki...incredible!

[tophunter]

Hi ,......Chapters #121 is out : God bless you Heiji-Sama !!!!

I'm working on translation of Baki #102, # 113, #115

It will be finish tomorrow in french . Then I'm gonna ask Asmodeal if he can translate all this for free . Just let me know if you want it ready befor I ask him:

I just dont want to disturb him furthermore if you guys don't like it...

So just let me know ok , Thank you !

Regards , tophunter and all the french members .

[tophunter]

when Baki visits him, retsu confesses that he wasnt mad because he lost part of his body, or that his techniques were useless, but because he told people that he was brave and ready when clearly he was not, and he was ashamed because he didnt really commited when he say to put his own body and life on the line, Baki say he researched Retsu's true name in chinese characters to find the meaning that he's Unable to give up no matter what, and that he should live accordingly on his true feelings, and that the devotion was the one that raised retsu and enlighten him, he told him "never lose your devotion, that is your true strenght" and Retsu thank him from the bottom of his heart....

Baki then discovers that when Yuujiro claimed that he would "EAT" his enemies, it was a figure of speech, but Pickle took this to a whole new level that baki has yet to discover, this ignites even more the flame of Baki inside to fight him, not for revenge or hate, but for a new level of fighting throughout history.

and also, KATSUMI ordered all the shinshinkai to capture pickle cause he was going to kill him and eat him alive too, going against the wishes of Orochi doppo's school of karate that he would not eat meat.

......

[kramsy]

thanks for all the work guys! btw, anyone know where i could download baki son of ogre volume 13?

[tophunter]

thanks for all the work guys! btw, anyone know where i could download baki son of ogre volume 13?

Just wait , maybe it's not out yet . You're talking about the last Son of oger volume.

[asmodeal]

Chapter # 102 (translation by tophunter)^^.

A summary :

Citation:
when Baki visits him, retsu confesses that he wasnt mad because he lost part of his body, or that his techniques were useless, but because he told people that he was brave and ready when clearly he was not, and he was ashamed because he didnt really commited when he say to put his own body and life on the line, Baki say he researched Retsu's true name in chinese characters to find the meaning that he's Unable to give up no matter what, and that he should live accordingly on his true feelings, and that the devotion was the one that raised retsu and enlighten him, he told him "never lose your devotion, that is your true strenght" and Retsu thank him from the bottom of his heart....

Baki then discovers that when Yuujiro claimed that he would "EAT" his enemies, it was a figure of speech, but Pickle took this to a whole new level that baki has yet to discover, this ignites even more the flame of Baki inside to fight him, not for revenge or hate, but for a new level of fighting throughout history.

and also, KATSUMI ordered all the shinshinkai to capture pickle cause he was going to kill him and eat him alive too, going against the wishes of Orochi doppo's school of karate that he would not eat meat.




Page 00 :



Page 01 :



He lost his leg, and this is what remains of the fight.
By winning the combat, and as a compensation Pickle had only devoured one leg.

Page 02 :



Summary :
Quote:
In the last chapter Pickle has won the fight. Eyes filed with tears , Pickle eat Retsu's right leg not even caring of Togukawa entrance and diner's hour. What will happen of Retsu, and of Pickle who has been sent to sleep.

Right: (This manga is a fiction, any resemblance with real existing people or groups will be purely fictional).

Page 03 :


Retsu : Forgive me!

Page 04 :

Retsu : I wasn't able to keep my promise. I deceived Pickle. If i were to lose he will eat me, that's what he said to me.

Page 05 :



Retsu :

In reality, he devoured a piece of my shoulder and my leg. And it could have been worse.

Page 06 :

Retsu :

But is it true? Did i really intent to be eaten? In my hearth's depth ... my will to survive. In reality, maybe i wished not to be eaten.

Page 07 :



Retsu : ......What a shame !

Baki :

So it was true...

Page 08 :

Baki :

You did not get bitten, but indeed eaten. When i've heard that you had lost some parts, i couldn't believe it.

Page 09 :



Baki : So your injuries...

Retsu :

I'm alright, i'm alright. If you need to know, i'm completely shaken. And i have to admit that i'm gravely indisposed.

Page 10 :



Retsu :

For a fighter to lose a combat and be handicapped is not a shameful.

Baki : ... Yeah i agree.

Retsu :

I'm shamed because i have displayed so little courage and resignation.

Page 11 :



Baki :

Jiji told me the story. But i couldn't believe that you would have deceived someone.

Retsu :

Deceive. I deceived no one. And no one can judge something i'm the only one to know. The will to die, desire for destruction, peoples that lack courage for their own action are indeed very talkative.

Page 12 :



Retsu :

What i wished was to come by myself. And i break my own will.

"I wish to be this lure"

Retsu : In fact my intentions were ambiguous

Page 13 :



Retsu : I'm really ashamed !

Page 14 :



Baki :

To transform your body into a weapon, and to lose your leg when you live to fight.

Baki : It's so sad.

Baki : But it's not the loss of your leg that hurts you, but your heart.

Page 15 :



Baki : You can be proud of this suffering.

Baki : You, Restu, a warrior called sea king (Kaio), with the pride of the people's republic of China.

Baki : There is something i would like to know. What is the meaning behind your name, Retsu?

Retsu :

烈　RETSU ? It means impetuous, extreme, and...


page 16 :



Baki :

…Someone that never lose his path.

Baki :

This is really who you are.

Baki :

Blinded by your flawless technique, you got catch. Your true valor resides in this state of mind.

Page 17 :



Retsu : Thx...thx.

Page 18 :



On the panel: Hospital Sugitani.

Baki :

My father is often talking of scoffing.
To scoff as a metaphor... it's almost a way of speaking.

Page 19 :



Baki :

If you don't win.
If you fail to be the winner...
You get to be eaten.


Baki : Ha ,HA ! ......to be eaten ...

Baki : ...This guy is so fantastic !!!!

Titles :

Dernière édition par asmodeal le 30 Juil 2008 15:02, édité 7 fois.

[Garou BOY]

thank you for the raws ...much apreciated!
himekawa defeated fujimaki...incredible!

I cannot believe Fujimaki lost to Himekawa... Ugh, I was hoping Himekawa would die!