25 Mar 2018 19:21
Il ne faut pas rêver non plusEt est ce que ça pourrais vouloir dire pas de pause après ce 10ieme chapitre ? Avec au moins encore une autre fournée de 10 chapitres dans la foulée avant une longue pause ?
26 Mar 2018 20:52
saverne a écrit:Les familles mafieuses de Kakin ont profité de la chute de celles de York Shin, ce qui montre qu'elles ne leur étaient pas supérieures. Et pourtant elles croient pouvoir faire quelque chose contre la brigade, quand on avait vu que les mafias n'étaient pas du tout à la hauteur.
26 Mar 2018 21:15
Là au contraire les triades semblent plus calculées. Elles ne sous estiment pas du tout la brigade et vont plus probablement chercher à monter un plan bien construit pour les éliminer.
26 Mar 2018 21:34
27 Mar 2018 01:42
Nenyx a écrit:Pas nécessairement. Les maffieux de York Shin y sont allés franchement léger, sans connaître leurs adversaires et avec aucune prudence. Ils se sont contentés d'envoyer leurs bêtes de l'ombre, qui elles mêmes ont attaqués sans être toutes là et sans vraiment avoir de plan bien défini.
Là au contraire les triades semblent plus calculées. Elles ne sous estiment pas du tout la brigade et vont plus probablement chercher à monter un plan bien construit pour les éliminer.
Et pourquoi donc ? Il suffit qu'ils aient accès à un nen qui affaiblit la cible (zetsu ...) ou qui la contrôle, et ils en ont un. Voire deux, en contrôlant un membre de la brigade pour l'utiliser contre un autre.
27 Mar 2018 12:27
27 Mar 2018 12:50
Duval a écrit:Le seul moyen de s'en prendre à la brigade est de commencer à attaquer et tuer ceux d'entre eux qui ne sont pas des combattants ou au moins ne sont pas de redoutables guerriers...
29 Mar 2018 01:00
29 Mar 2018 02:13
29 Mar 2018 02:33
29 Mar 2018 04:04
bartpejl a écrit:Déjà coucou tout le monde! (first message)
Je me demandais quel était votre avis sur cet arc à cet instant t.
Pour ma part, je l’apprécie beaucoup. Ce que j'aime dans HxH c'est que Togashi s'essaye à plusieurs genres à travers les arcs et la série se renouvelle constamment.
Je ne suis pas gêné par le fait qu' HxH soit très verbeux (coucou les page avec 3 pauvres dessins et une tonne de texte) car on prend le temps de comprendre le contexte et les enjeux.
Tout de même cet arc est assez frustrant car il y a pas mal de points de vue différents pris, les antagonistes principaux ne sont pas encore bien définis (on suppose quand même que le 4e prince sera l'un ou le boss final). J'ai l'impression d'être le seul à être un peu déçu de quitté l'étage des princes pour les étages inférieurs (En même temps, le fanboy qui est moi est tout fout de revoir la brigade fantôme) .
J'ai beaucoup apprécie l'arc des kiméra ants, pas mal de choses ont pris du temps à se mettre en place (la naissance du roi, sa rencontre avec kumogi, le plan d'attaque du chateau) et je pense que cela a contribué au beau final de cet arc.
J'espère que ça se passera de la même façon sur ce bateau (ou bien on aura le droit à un naufrage à la titanic puis on repasse sur Kirual/Gon ... j'espère qu'on aura pas un troll de ce genre, mais je l'accepterai si c'est bien amené comme j'ai accepter la résurrection d'Hisoka qui ne me paraissait pas si fou dans cet univers!)
Je m'attend à voir mourir kurapika, la brigade et/ou hisoka.
29 Mar 2018 12:53
bartpejl a écrit:J'ai beaucoup apprécie l'arc des kiméra ants, pas mal de choses ont pris du temps à se mettre en place (la naissance du roi, sa rencontre avec kumogi, le plan d'attaque du chateau) et je pense que cela a contribué au beau final de cet arc.
29 Mar 2018 14:50
saverne a écrit:
Irumi a un ticket VIP, Mizaistom rencontre Koruto et Irumi, qui lui dit que toute la brigade est là. Mizaistom se demande s'ils sont là pour Kurapika. Et à la fin, il demande à Fugetsu ce qui s'est passé.
Ca a l'air de pas mal avancer cette fois-ci !
29 Mar 2018 15:00
29 Mar 2018 15:53
Reno a écrit:Tout l'arc Chimera passe mieux en effet quand il est lu avec un bon rythme. C'est d'ailleurs pour ca qu'en Anime c'est l'arc preferé des gens.
29 Mar 2018 17:22
Reno a écrit:Aucune surprise. Seul les eternels reveurs pensaient que ca allait durer plus longtemps.
Par contre j'espere qu'il annonce un retour comme la derniere fois dans son message. Ca serait cool.
2 series de 10 chapitres par an, moi j'achete !
29 Mar 2018 19:11
30 Mar 2018 11:57
veraciouscake a écrit:CHAPTER 380 Warning
Mizaistom is in a meeting in what looks like the criminal investigation HQ
Mizaistom The case at hand is the heinous crimes aboard this ship, particularly the serial murders in tier 3. Considering that it started three days into the voyage, it is unlikely that the culprit did this because of stress induced by prolonged containment. Based on our investigation of the crime scene, and a holistic analysis of victim profiling, possible motives, and statistical data, we can safely say that multiple aberrant incidents are taking place at the same time that are different from your average murders.
Mizaistom There are three factors here: the randomness of the attacks that aim to kill for the sake of killing, the ritual aspect that we can infer from words and numbers that the culprit muttered which sounded like requirements, and the extraordinary circumstances on this very ship. Taking into account all of the above, there is an extremely high possibility that these are concurrent serial murders revolving around the Seed Urn Ceremony, committed by multiple individual perpetrators...!!
Police Hold on, I can't let that pass!
Police Are you implying that some of the princes are the culprits!? How ludicrous!!
Police In the first place, there is zero possibility that the Princes would leave tier 1.
Police This Succession Contest is a battle among the Princes, right!?
Police Why in hell would they need to slaughter normal passengers, who are uninvolved with the matter at all!?
Mizaistom Please let me finish. It would be easy if any of the Princes is a culprit; all they need to do is to set up a "real culprit."
Everyone !?
Mizaistom This ship is bound for the new continent, and at the same time it is also the arena in which the next King of Kakin -- in other words, the ruler of the continent -- is decided. In short, on this ship the Succession Contest is the utmost priority. Almost anything is fair game until there is one Prince left standing. Except for directly killing other Princes that is...!! All candidates in the Succession Contest have weapons called "royal privileges" and "exemption from repercussions" and a shield of "capital punishment for killing royals" -- a set of contradictory gears to use against each other. What this amounts to is the prevalence of contracted killings and speculative murders...!! I believe our case this time is exactly the latter.
Mizaistom But then that begs the question just now... "Why is it necessary to kill commoners en masse?" The answer lies in the arcane nature of the Seed Urn Ceremony! History has taught us that, from the perspective of the country's rulers who have continued to prosper since its foundation thanks to this ceremony, it is very natural to think that offering sacrifices will grant them supernatural powers. At the same time, it is very believable that the perpetrators who "speculated" about the Princes' intentions started spilling blood themselves in hopes of getting their own supernatural powers, in order to accomplish their goals.
The room erupts into an uproar
Mizaistom And now, the real problem. The murders will continue to increase from now on... and when they reach a critical point, this ship will sink...!! Because of the chaos caused by the fear and paranoia of 200,000 people...!!
Police ...Impossible...
Mizaistom The national military personnel and guards on board number at 2,000. Simple math puts us at 1 personnel per 100 common people, but in actuality 800 personnel -- or 40% of the troops -- are situated in tier 1, and 600 are on tier 2. In other words, 70% of on-board security is allotted for the upper class, and when it comes to tiers 4 and 5 we have to rely on the mafia to maintain public order. The fact is that there are 300+ people for each military personnel to guard, and if something should happen the lower-tier troops are nigh powerless...! We do not have much time! We have to stop the serial murders and defuse the passengers' panic!
Police ...But... do we have any concrete means to do that?
Mizaistom The most effective way to do so is to halt or cancel the Succession Contest, but that is unrealistic. So I propose that we do the next best -- to reallocate the national military, and add 800 personnel to tiers 3 and below!!
Police That is... unreasonable.
Mizaistom I am not saying this to threaten you -- this matter concerns the entire existence of the Kingdom of Kakin. I believe that if you propose this to the First Prince, who is a key figure in Kakin's national security, he will give you his consent. We have enough data and basis for executing the proposal, and for believing that it will bring in good "results." This proposal will remain on the official records, and now that it is on the table, you guys are the ones who will get in trouble if you fail to report it to Prince Benjamin. Do you catch my drift...?
Police ...
After the meeting
Mizaistom Damn I feel like I just sold my soul to the devil.
Botobai Can't be helped; that was the best you could have done without having to explain about Nen. Because an "unknown threat" is a recipe for an explosion of panic for common people. Any info about "multiple serial murderers with supernatural abilities" is definitely beyond what your average person can digest. You have extended the fuse as much as you could. All that's left that we can hope for is to evacuate as many people as possible within the time limit, and defuse the proverbial explosive. I'll have the Hunters assigned outside the Princes' living quarters summoned posthaste, and enforce a gag order about this matter to the upper echelons of Kakin. I have a feeling that... the fuse to destruction is much shorter than we have imagined...
Inside the Cha-R Family HQ
Wang Welcome inside the base.
Troupe Members Ooh~~
Wang The monitor room is over here. It monitors and records several key locations in tier 5, including the interior of this room of course. This is the video of when the man carried the warehouse keeper here. He was trying to open the inner door amid the chaos and confusion, but he gave up upon finding that it was locked, and escaped from the door he came from. He was doing his best to prevent his face from being caught on camera.
Nobunaga Do you have footage of the warehouse?
Mafioso We only have cameras set at the entrance. The only people coming in and out of there outside of our members are the three of you.
Wang Compile a list of visitors outside of our members, going back as far as yesterday. It is highly possible that the culprit came to survey the location in advance.
Phinks Hm.
Wang The cameras were set up one day prior to the start of the voyage, and the cargoes had been loaded before that. If he had snuck in as a worker, he would not be caught on camera.
Nobunaga Not that we ever had any expectations for that. Doesn't matter, the culprit will come to us anyway... to open that door over there.
Wang Do you want to see... what lies beyond that door?
Nobunaga Well, we wouldn't ask that for free. How about we do that as bounty for the culprit's head?
Wang Very well. Hey, you! From now on, include them three in the guard shifts.
Tsdonke Yessir.
Wang Tell them what they need to know.
Tsdonke I'm Tsdonke, leader of the grunts.
Phinks Hey. How many from the Cha-R Family are on board?
Tsdonke There are 250 of us, including the smallest units. I don't know about the other Families but I suppose it should be about the same.
Tsdonke (Whooo the Spider guys are before me!! So many things I want to ask them!! But I would be setting a bad example to the grunts!! I have to find a chance to somehow talk to them one-on-one...!!)
Tsdonke We have MREs (ready-to-eat meals), so help yourself to our stockpiles over there. During recess, if you pay to go up to the tier 4 cafeteria you can also get somewhat better food.
Tsdonke (I wonder if... they would give me their autographs...)
There is a two-page spread detailing the current positions of important characters.
Tier 3
Special government ward (for executive committees of the government and judicial branches, the central police and sub-divisions of the natural military) - - -> Mizaistom, Botobai, Pyon, Cluck, Ginta
Special medical ward (for the central hospital and general research center) - - -> Cheadle, Leorio, Gel
Heil-Ly Family office - - -> Luini
Passenger cabin - - -> Cashew
The outlook area - - -> Yellmi, Callt
Tier 4
Xi-Yu Family office - - -> Hinrigh
Tier 5
Central passageway between tiers 4 and 5 - - -> Quwrof, Vonnornoth, Chzzok
Warehouse entrance - - -> Heytun
Cha-R Family office - - -> Wang, Nobunaga, Phynkss
Central cafeteria - - -> Fulunki
Passenger cabin - - -> Matiy
Day 4 of the voyage, 10 AM
On-board broadcast An armed stowaway is currently on the loose!! Please do not leave your rooms nor open your doors until you receive further instructions from the military. For your meals, the troops will escort you to the cafeteria at the designated time for each area. We repeat: please do not leave your rooms without permission!!
Botobai Employ human-wave tactics and sweep the entirety of tier 3!! Search every nook and cranny from the corners of the living quarters to inside the cabins, and smoke out any suspicious person!! Detain anyone who does not possess an ID ticket, even children!!
On-board broadcast Please cooperate with the military investigation!! A stowaway is currently on the loose!!
Tier 3, outlook area
About a dozen military personnel are surrounding two persons
Soldier Hey! Hands up and turn around!! Slowly!! Did you not hear the emergency broadcast!?
Kalluto I was asleep and I didn't notice~
Soldier Where are your ID tickets!?
Illumi They are inside my pocket.
The soldier confirms the tickets
Soldier !! Excuse my rudeness, but... what is a VVIP passenger doing in a place like this...?
Illumi Business purposes...
Soldier ... Pardon my insolence once more. I have to inform you that although this ID may have granted you free pass anywhere up until now, due to the quasi-martial law it is now impossible to freely move in and out of the passageway that connects tiers 2 and 3. I'm afraid that will be the case until we reach the New Continent... Please kindly return to the upper tier -- we will escort you.
Illumi We're fine here.
Soldier Huh...?
Illumi I told you we've got business here in tier 3. We'll stay.
Soldier But...
Botobai Corporal Missouri
Botobai, Mizaistom, and Ginta approach
Botobai He is also a Hunter.
Missouri Huh...
Mizaistom So the Spiders... are on-board...?
Illumi Yup, every one of us.
Kalluto Brother!
Illumi Ah right, I'm an honest man. I just can't help but answer when asked. Sorry, but I won't say anything beyond this. I have a duty to keep my work confidential, after all.
Mizaistom That is fine... But since the warning was announced it is now compulsory for you to stand by in your rooms. Anyone without a residential number that we can confirm through the ID will be restrained. We will allow you to remain in tier 3, on the condition that both your IDs will be registered to the residential number of a room inside the central police station.
Illumi Okay~ I'd like a solitary confinement with a shower, please.
Mizaistom It is neither a detention nor an arrest. You will just stay in a room in the same accommodation as ours. Unfortunately all of us in law enforcement get shared bath-and-toilets. It's along the way, so I ask that you follow me for a while.
Mizaistom (I believe it was confirmed that the Kalluto - the 5th son of the Zoldyck Family - had joined the Spiders, but... their eldest son too...!? What are they plotting...!? Of course, I can't let Kurapika learn of their being here, let alone the objectives of the Spiders and the Zoldyck family. To give him more mental baggage that would shake his core, amid this Succession Contest rife with Nen Beasts and Princes and plots and machinations, could prove fatal!!)
Mizaistom (Still... why are the Spiders on board? ...!! Could it be that... their goal is revenge on Kurapika...!? Illumi is a contemporary Hunter from Kurapika's year!! If the Spiders learned that Kurapika is a Hunter, they could easily arrive at the idea of boarding this Black Whale...!! Should I tell Kurapika... or...!?)
Police Mizai! We have found a suspicious person without an ID. But the problem is...
Mizaistom What?
The police officer whispers into Mizaistom's ear
Mizaistom What the...!? Botobai!! Ginta!! I'll leave the rest to you!! I'll return to the HQ for now!!
Mizaistom Is she safe?
Police She is fine. We have Hunters guarding her. But it seems that some of the soldiers noticed her...
Mizaistom Give them the gag order! Put them under house arrest if you have to!
In the police HQ
Mizaistom talks to a child wearing a jumper with a black hood
Mizaistom Don't worry, you are safe now. Would you kindly explain what happened...?
Mizaistom Prince Fugetsu...!!
=End of Chapter, Start of Hiatus=
30 Mar 2018 13:55
30 Mar 2018 17:35
30 Mar 2018 18:06
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30 Mar 2018 19:38
saverne a écrit:Je pense bien que Kacho est en vie, sinon, sa soeur ne ferait pas une tête inquiète, mais désespérée. J'apprécie beaucoup que la situation a évolué là-bas, même si c'est hors caméra, mais je pense qu'on aura un flashback.
J'apprécie aussi de voir que Mizaistom sert à quelque chose, est bien informé et peut jouer un rôle déterminant pour la suite. On entrevoit vaguement une convergence des intrigues, mais ça prendra du temps. Du côté de Nobunaga, on en est à chasser du menu fretin.
Le bilan de ce tome 36 reste toutefois mitigé, on n'a quand même pas avancé des masses.
30 Mar 2018 19:52
30 Mar 2018 20:20
Guerillaourt a écrit:Ça va être effectivement très long, du genre long même pour Togashi...ma mémoire me joue des tours, a-t-on vu jusque là Hisoka sur le bateau? Ça remonte à combien de chapitres?
30 Mar 2018 21:29
01 Avr 2018 18:02
24 Mai 2018 18:13
24 Mai 2018 19:20
24 Mai 2018 23:30
29 Mai 2018 22:25
31 Mai 2018 10:20
01 Juin 2018 10:53
Mais pour la finir faudrait pouvoir sortir plus de 20 chapitres par an, hein.
01 Juin 2018 11:17
magickirua a écrit:Oui, Togashi fait 2 volumes par an, mais en terme de volume de travail, ce n'est pas juste 20 semaines sur 52.
01 Juin 2018 13:31
01 Juin 2018 18:12
20 Juin 2018 08:33
20 Juin 2018 12:01
20 Juin 2018 14:40
20 Juin 2018 18:05
Mic-shaman a écrit:On dirait Gon et Kirua déguisé en Hisoka et Kuroro!!