Baki/Garoden - Keisuke Itagaki (For English-speaking)

[Nine]

Baki SOO : Volume 13 realeased

http://adc-manga.com/pk/?p=92#comment-374

Enjoy

There's a link only for the French version.
http://www.megaupload.com/de/?d=SBD3TX4W

WFP relesed Volume 12

http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43784

and Shamo volume 24
http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43786

Someone please post Shamo in the French thred cause i don't know French.

[Mr War]

Baki's bout with Olivia was long and still wasn't easy to finish off even with oni no kao.

It's length really had no bearing on it's difficulty, It's not like Baki was on the verge of losing or in any real bad shape? Oliva: Slammed him through several walls, Slammed him on the ground, Threw him off a high elevation and crushed him with his entire body strength. . .Yet, despite all that Baki was fine he showed no signs of critical damage especially in comparisons with his other fights despite taking more damage than almost any fight in the series. He took a good Bulk of his hits barely scathed [He had a few nicks and some blood on his forehead] and all the damage he did have initially vanished once he summoned his "Oni Powers". Itagaki tried to throw some suspense here and there by showing Baki laid out on the ground at times during the end of some chapters which made it seem like he lost. But, he always turned out to be perfectly fine and in one instance it turns out he was just chillin' on the ground where he began to talk to Oliva like nothing happened.

The only real damage he took was when him and Oliva became rock 'em sock 'em robots. The damage he took was a black eye and a bloody nose like Oliva despite going through all the things I highlighted in red. . .


Oliva's durability was completely ignored and Baki pretty much punched his way to victory. To do something like that against someone as durable as Oliva is a joke. The man boasted near invulnerability and somehow Baki knocked him on his arse with just punches and kicks when he could barely even hurt him if not at all with any punches or kicks. I could understand if he decided to use a technique and exploit weak points, which worked well earlier in the fight. But, he said he completely forfeited the use of any type of technique and socked on him until he won.

*The characters that Baki has beaten before, and even those that don't even have the strength to get to fight him, still remain important characters. To say such things requires ignoring the huge load of focus on other characters done in the second and third Baki manga series.

*Disappears from the story forever doesn't describe any of the Maximum Tournament top 5 fighters. Hanayama, Jack, Retsu, Doppo, Shibukawa, etc. all still pop up more than once and actually matter in the story. Even Shinogi Kosho pops up again for god's sakes.

*Korakuen fighters do not move or shake up the story like they did before is what I mean't. Their relevance in the central plot I.E. Baki's quest to surpass his father seems all but done now. They aren't challenging Baki to reach new levels of strength or offering him new ways to get stronger or Challenging Yujiro anymore. They come and go from time to time, and the manga let's you know they get stronger. But, they aren't involved with the main major players of the Story E.G. Baki and Yujiro. They even stated that they will not fight Baki anymore and I have not seen any rematches with Yujiro. Lately they are pretty much used for the most part to gauge new opponents for Baki. New characters which are heavily hyped up and beating korakuen elites add to that hype. Only to have said new character flop because Baki can beat him with no real problem despite said character having great showings against Korakuen fighters. I find that an indication of sorts to show how they have fallen. It used to be that fighitng in Korakuen was a big deal let alone beating an elite. Now it's like nothing because the people who can do it are still easily beaten by the main chracter and in a manga where fighting ability denotes status it proves this next point. Their presence really does not move things in the central plot along as well anymore as in part one. I think their fights are more interesting than Baki's, but their impact is significantly less. They are certainly not the power houses they were way back in part one or prisoner arc of part 2. The only exception is probably Jack, but since he's a Hanma [the weakest] he's gonna get leeway since that's what the story favors. . .Hanma's


*I said they will either disappear or become irrelevant to the story. As I stated before their impact in the story has lessened significantly. Their strength isn't showcased to be as meaningful as when they first came or during the prisoner arc. Back then, they were portrayed as beast and Baki could barely beat them if not at all, they had relevance to his Baki's plot because they provided Obstacles for him to conquer. . . Is that the status Quo now?

*You can't seriously think that Yujiro was incapable of dodging rather than just taking it easy? Especially when direct blows to Yujiro's upper body didn't do any damage whatsoever. Yujiro walked out of that without even a single injury while he left Doppo for dead.


*At least Kaku Kaoh got Yujiro off his feet and bloodied him a little.. Doppo's bout with him was pretty much a game in comparison.

*Yujiro himself stated that he wasn't able to dodge said punches and expressed surprise that he was being hit so much. At one point Doppo had him backed against the wall in shock of what was going on, lol. His hands were bleeding from Doppo's technique:







*As I showed he was bleeding and it can't be just game seeing how he had to get serious just to win. Infact, the scenario was exactly the same as Yujiro's match with Kaku.

Baki was in a whole different level before the second manga series even started as comparisons between him and Shibukawa go.

If Baki is as strong or stronger than Shibukawa according to you then Ali Jr. must be stronger than Shibukawa. Since, Shibukawa stated that he agree'd with Doppo's claim that Ali Jr. would beat Baki and he's no stranger to Baki strength seeing how he was in a tournament that Baki won and he lost. [Maximum tournament]

Also, when were these comparisons made between them?

Shibukawa already commented that he only lost to Ali Jr. because he wasn't taking Ali Jr seriously. The moment he did fight seriously has him pretty much stomping Ali Jr. with ease.

Ali also commented that Shibukawa was a sore loser, which he most likely is true considering Shibukawa ambushed an injured Ali Jr. and couldn't even finish him off with multiple slams while he was injured, Lol. Furthermore, The fact that he needs to take Ali jr. seriously when he's injured no less is laughable. Shibukawa clearly has the advantage here and can say whatever he wants about being superior. At the end of the day Ali still beat him fair and square in one hit. Something a "Serious" Shibukawa could not even do to an injured Ali jr. . .LOL.


About their first fight Ali jr. showed Shibukawa mercy after he was to slow too react to his punch and proceed to talk before K.O. ing him with one punch from what seemed to be half an inch I doubt he wasn't without restraints as well. . . Never mind that Shibukawa couldn't do anything, but express surprise. Unless he was joking around still even at the point that he was being spared by Ali jr? Never mind that this is the same guy who could react to Doppo's punches which Yujiro couldn't dodge. He was also able to OHKO the same Shibukawa who took a full blow from Doppo to the face.

Finally, he's taken other fighters lightly as well, since he's an easy going man. . . and he still beat their asses. Why is this the exception all of a sudden.

Baki also has the little matter of the poison cleansing that gave him a boost in capability.

Combined with Kozue's tears oh and the fact that she slept with him. He always has some BS to make him stronger, it feels like I reading Bleach. Him being healed and getting stronger is reminiscent of DBZ back when Saiyins would get stronger after recovering from near-death experiences. It's out of place in a manga like Baki.

You have to ignore the entire Raitei tournament to claim that all he did was go on dates and have sex.

What training did he do during Raitei? He was sick and magically got better and got some gay power boost.

Baki himself commented that he was focused on not allowing Ali Jr. to give him any blows while it was explained that Ali Jr. quite simply didn't have the fight to the death mindset that Baki does.

. .What would it matter if he had that mentality? It's not like Korakuen fights are too the death anyways. Infact, the supervisors jump in for the most part when a fighter is on the verge of dying or being beaten to death. The only exception was maybe Yujiro vs Doppo where they thought Doppo was alive because he was standing. How can you have a daeth match in those kind of conditions is beyond me. Even Katsumi who fought in korakuen exclaimed that he never fought in a real fight, just matches. Having the desire to fight to the death is not neccessary in sports competitions because they aren't to the death and that's what Korakeun is a competition with rules. Granted they have less rules then other fight competitions, they have rules nonetheless. Infact, Ali's fights against the Korakuen masters are alot closer to a real fight to the death seeing how there was no one to supervise or enforce any rules and he still won. He only lost when he was ambushed by them while injured and while that is very close to what can happen in a real fight but is entirely irrelevant to his fight with Baki since they are not having a real fight. . .Just a no holds barred match.

Why would it matter if Baki is focused on not getting hit, how would that change the fact that Ali jr. could hit people that even Yujiro could or has had problems hitting? This all goes back to my problem with Baki and his random power boost.

More than likely not easily. Especially when Baki got stomped, or kicked to be more literal, in their first bout.

He was looking away and was caught by a surprise kick. You call that a bout' ?

Dernière édition par Mr War le 25 Déc 2008 08:29, édité 31 fois.

[metsudragon]

Ippon for Mr.War?

Seriously, in addition to what Mr War posted, the Baki/Ali Jr. fight was the biggest waste of panels I have ever seen. Itagaki could've went so much further with that fight, and still show Baki's high level, without making us look like chumps for anticipating that 'fight'.

[tophunter]

Thanks Asmodeal you did a great job

[Silviu]

no english translations for these last chapters ?

[asmodeal]

Yeah sorry, busy and lazy.

[KiruaEikichi]

Yeah sorry, busy and lazy.

He say that but he has translate chapter 136 here
Don't forget to thank him

[tophunter]

Good night evryone ^^ :

And thank you Asmodeal

[Silviu]

from the makers of CROWS http://www.megaupload.com/?d=027SJSDB

[tophunter]

BAKI SON OF OGER : Volume# 15

Released by Naturaleza ^^:

Tome 15: http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=AC505HJ4

Enjoy !

[Gecko4lif]

Hey guys

Im new here and im a huge baki fanboy


Ive read all of SOO and the first 12 volumes of son of orge and the first 8 of garuoden


Question. What is shamo?

[KiruaEikichi]

Question. What is shamo?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamo_(manga)

[Gecko4lif]

I already read that but never have I been one to trust Wiki

[Gouki]

Wikipedia can still be a great tool to kick-start your search or research. Just don’t rely on it completely!

[Gecko4lif]

ok.

so how many vols have been scanned since the Pickle Retsu Fight?



On a side topic


there are some fight I water at the mouth thinking about.


Olivia vs Jack= IDK. I feel like leaning to olivia on this one. Not sure as to why.
Jack vs Hanayama = Explosion in my pants
Olivia vs Hanayama= hanayama is such a tank. I cant Honestly say who would win.
Olivia vs Pickle= Pickle would win ( im 995 sure) but I would love to see the fight
Jack vs Pickle= Pickle stomps him, but again I would love to see the fight


I wont put hanayama vs pickle since I know that already happens at some point

[Leonheart]

Olivia vs Jack= IDK. I feel like leaning to olivia on this one. Not sure as to why.
Jack vs Hanayama = Explosion in my pants
Olivia vs Hanayama= hanayama is such a tank. I cant Honestly say who would win.
Olivia vs Pickle= Pickle would win ( im 995 sure) but I would love to see the fight
Jack vs Pickle= Pickle stomps him, but again I would love to see the fight

I won't tell you which one to not spoil you, but actualy one of these fights will really occur

[Gecko4lif]

I care not for spoilers I crave KNOWLEDGE!

[a_nevels666]

I care not for spoilers I crave KNOWLEDGE!

*spoilers* (underline to see him)

Pickle is currently fighting Jack in the manga.

[Silviu]

is Jack on drugs again ?

[hassanx]

can someone tell me --where can i find BAKI soo chaps since retsu vs pickel till now plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ? ? ?

[KiruaEikichi]

can someone tell me --where can i find BAKI soo chaps since retsu vs pickel till now plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ? ? ?

here, but it's in French, and the last raw are on raw-paradise.

[hassanx]

can someone tell me --where can i find BAKI soo chaps since retsu vs pickel till now plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ? ? ?

here, but it's in French, and the last raw are on raw-paradise.

a billion tnxxx tnx u very much ---- yea it's coool even in french ---but at raw-paradise there's only raw for 141-142 --- ???????--- if u could RE help me -------- tnx

[asmodeal]

Here are working links for volume 14 and 15
http://www.filefactory.com/file/d7e6f3/ ... akiv14_zip
[s]http://uploaded.to/?id=rzcco2[/s] ah no vol 15 is corrupted

vol 01 at 12 are here http://www.raw-paradise.com/Ritual/Tome ... of%20Ogre/
13 is here http://www.mediafire.com/?eey0ozxsmfc

vol16 is available tomorrow in japan

[hassanx]

Here are working links for volume 14 and 15
http://www.filefactory.com/file/d7e6f3/ ... akiv14_zip
[s]http://uploaded.to/?id=rzcco2[/s] ah no vol 15 is corrupted

vol 01 at 12 are here http://www.raw-paradise.com/Ritual/Tome ... of%20Ogre/
13 is here http://www.mediafire.com/?eey0ozxsmfc

vol16 is available tomorrow in japan

--------------------------tnx--------------------------

[asmodeal]

ok again and properly this time

vol 14 http://www.mediafire.com/?gmtcbvm1hxj

vol 15 http://www.mediafire.com/?symyyccyhat

vol 16 (equivalent in chapters) http://www.mediafire.com/?2yijnxbnjxs

vol 17 (equivalent in chapters) http://www.mediafire.com/?mdijzhd4xum

chap 141 http://www.mediafire.com/?sptlk04tu12

chap 142 http://www.mediafire.com/?5qjy1ete2xs

[sonikku]

looks like Jack Hammer goes Mike Tyson on Pickle.

http://ritualscan2.free.fr/viewtopic.php?t=1216&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1120

scroll down to Dofla's post.

I kinda feel bad for pickle getting his ear ripped off by a doped up jack.

Since I'm in a good mood I'll translate a chapter for everyone.

The text in () are not spoken but the characters thoughts and text outside bubbles.

Chapter 142:



Mitsunari: ....
Mitsunari: Jack
Mitsunari: (His Face)
Mitsunari: (Got Eatten!)





Jack: Idiot!





Mitsunari: (He's laughing.)
Mitsunari: Jack ...
Mitsunari: (He's definitely laughing.)
Mitsunari: (Even with his face ripped off...)
Mitsunari: (Even with his face eaten ...)
Mitsunari: (As if he hasn't given up.)







Mitsunari: (OHH! Look at that!)
Mitsunari: JACK!
Mitsunari: (THAT* was Jack's punch.)
Mitsunari: (To send Pickle who weighs over 200 Kilo's flying.)
Mitsunari: (This is Jack's punch.)



Jack: (This feeling...)
(Jack is referring to the feeling of impact from his punch)



Jack: (It's different!!!)
Jack: (Chins...)
Jack: (I've punched a lot of chins ...)
Jack: (and have broken many ...)



Jack: (However Pickle's is completely different!)
Mitsunari:(What is? What is going on?)
Mitsunari: Jack ...
Jack: (It's as if the chin itself weighed 200 killos!)



Jack: (In other words. After landing my best punch. Muscles, Breathing, using all of my body at the maximum.



Jack: (I wasn't able to move his skull at all!)
Jack: (Pickles brain hasn't moved at all)



Mitsunari: (Why doesn't he go down? After that punch?!)
Mitsunari: Jack ...
Mitsunari: Oh. (Old dude pats him on shoulder)

Old Dude: I've taken the liberty of observing the situation before you've arrived. This is not the time to be bewildered by Pickle's toughness.





Mitsunari: ohh! that stance!
Old Dude: Of course I remember it. The chinese kenpo master; Mr. Retsu, It's the same fighting stance that took him out in an instant.

Old Dude: Jack's last hit has litten a fire within Pickle.



Old Dude: In other words ... In just 2 hits. Jack has led Pickle to use his max power.

Jack: It comes! (reffering to his drug effects)

[asmodeal]

Thx a lot man.

[hassanx]

ok again and properly this time

vol 14 http://www.mediafire.com/?gmtcbvm1hxj

vol 15 http://www.mediafire.com/?symyyccyhat

vol 16 (equivalent in chapters) http://www.mediafire.com/?2yijnxbnjxs

vol 17 (equivalent in chapters) http://www.mediafire.com/?mdijzhd4xum

chap 141 http://www.mediafire.com/?sptlk04tu12

chap 142 http://www.mediafire.com/?5qjy1ete2xs

-------------TNX²-------------

[Gecko4lif]

vol 17 doesnt work for some reason

It says it is either corrupted or of a unknown format

[asmodeal]

Ok I have downloaded vol 17 from my link.

The file is a bit missy i admit, i'm using mangameeya as an image reader and if i try to open the file as it is, it skips chap 132, 138 and 139 and i'm not sure why.

Regardless of that, I can uncompressed it without errors and i can also uncompressed every chapters without errors (if i want to but it's not necessary to uncompressed them if you use mangameeya).

So I don't see any corruption in the archive.

Maybe your error is because I didn't bother renaming the chapters and the pages, and it's all in unicode which is not supported by many image reader.
If you want to give a try to mangameeya and see if it works better here is a link http://www.mediafire.com/?juaa1xnwwyx

If it's really the archive that is corrupted, it may be something on your part, like corrupted sectors on your hd or defective ram that screwed up the decompression or the download.

I hope it helps.

[Silviu]

http://rapidshare.com/files/184782306/Baki_142.rar.html

english

Dernière édition par Silviu le 17 Jan 2009 15:15, édité 1 fois.

[tophunter]

Thanks sonikku

[sonikku]

I'll try translating 143 / 144 as well, I'm sure everyone is itching to know what's happening during this fight. It's pretty hard to translate the interpreted meaning into English. The way the author says things somethings have deep / odd meaning's to them.

btw, can someone please tell me that Old Dudes name, the nobel prize winner guy. I don't want to keep reffering to him as "Old Dude".

Retsu: This doesn't look like robbery.
Baki: There's no valuables to steal beyond this point.
Baki: Let's hurry.



Retsu: Another one! (referring to the broken door)
Baki: Let's keep going!
Retsu: Alrite!



(Baki steps on glass)
Baki: !?
Baki: Eh?



(Both of them staring at the insane amount of needles and drugs)



Baki: It's just like Hansel and Gretel. (lol instead of breadcrumbs, it's needles and bottles)
Retsu: Anyone would be able to guess who took this much drugs.











(everyone surprised)
everyone: Jack?! By Himself?!



sfx* muscle throbbing *sfx



Mitsunari: Ohhhh!! He was repelled away? All the way over there?
Old Dude: ... (Look's on in horror)



(narration by baki in [])
[A Face that's been practically torn off.]
[The max doping muscle reaction that anyone would recognize with one glance.]
[15... No, 20 meters thrown away and the already moving Pickle.]



[And Myself ... who is looking on]
Baki: The Battle against Pickle ...
Baki: I was confident I had desired to fight him the most.
Baki: "I'm going to be fighting him next!", I thought.
Baki: But ...



[I understood that I was too late]
[That understanding...]
[That understanding turned into the truth of the harsh reality before me.]
[That truth then lead to heartache.]

Well, that's chapter 143. Some crazy stuff happening. Jack maxing out and throwing Pickle 20 feet away? Holy Shit! The Last Page is insane as well. Jack is all maxed out and is holding Pickle by the head.

I've tried my best to translate. I've tried to be true to what their saying while explaining the context to the reader. If you don't understand please so say. Any *constructive* criticism is welcomed.

I would also look to know howto place the two pics next to each other horizontally showing the whole scene. kthx, enjoy!

Dernière édition par sonikku le 20 Jan 2009 08:25, édité 3 fois.

[sonikku]

I'll take a crack at 144 when a decent RAW comes out. Hopefully 145 comes out soon I want to know what happens.

All I can say is Jack's a freaking nut case. He practically bites off Pickles ear and kicks it in his face.

[frieD195]

Old Dude's name is Dr. Albert E. Payne (pg 10, ch 81, vol 11). anyone know where I could get the raws for SoO 144 and 145?

[asmodeal]

Again, that's so great sonikku, it's really kind of you to offer us translations.

To place two pics next to each other horizontally, you just have to stick both images code,like this
['img]your image[/'img]['img]your image[/'img]
without ' of course.

Also, i would like to suggest that you put your translations on mangahelpers too.
Don't misunderstand me, i'm really happy to see your posts here, but you would meet a greater audience by putting them also on mangahelpers.
(The reason why we did not put those i did with tophunter on mangahelpers is beacause I don't think they are good enough, but i'm sure yours are).

[sonikku]

As I said before when I decent RAW comes out I'll translate 144. I should probably translate from 140 ... when the fight started. I'll do it if I get in the mood.

asmodeal: I think tophunters translations are fine, nothing wrong with them. I feel honored having being even compared to tophunters work.

(For those who don't know, "senpai" is a japanese word used to address your seniors. Usually used in school context. If you were a 7th year student you would refer to an 8th year student as "senpai")

(The japanese have a way of speaking when they leave out the adjective, nouns, and verbs to create a sense of suspense. It's pretty annoying to translate, try to bare with me)

Prologue: Jack stands up! Has the passage of time granted us strength?! Jack; who was born after him, show's Pickle his feelings.

Jack: Hey, Senpai ...
Jack: Tell me Senpai ...



Jack: We modern humans ...
Jack: Have we evolved and progressed?

Floating Text: Pickle is calm?!



Jack: Hey, Senpai ...
Baki: This is ...



Payne: This fight is ...
Jack: Hey, Senpai ...



Jack: Can you feel it?
Jack: Can you feel me?



Jack: Food, Alcohol, Women, Money, Status, Honor.*



Jack: What I desire.
Jack: What I have lived for.



Jack: I have absolutely no interest in those things.(referring to *)
Jack: Just one...
Jack: Just one is fine.



Jack: To live for the sake of that one thing.



Jack: That is strength!



Jack: I didn't ever stop training.
Jack: Even as I pissed my own pants.



Jack: I've even made use of drugs.
Jack: Used them until I was near death itself.
Jack: I wanted to bigger big.



Jack: In exchange for excruciating pain, I've managed to obtain growth.



Jack: My everyday life, has been for strength alone.
Jack: That is the only thing I turned my attention to.



Jack: Therefore I, declare myself as the representative of modern times.



Jack: Hey, Senpai ...
Baki & Payne: This fight is ...



Jack: You think it's appropriate, right?



Mitsunari & Retsu: Pickle Vs Jack is ...



Spectators: The Newest Vs The Oldest!

[sonikku]

As for a little insight into 145:

http://ritualscan2.free.fr/viewtopic.ph ... start=1160

scroll done to donfla's post.

Looks like Pickles gotten angry and will finally show what he's got. His mouth is in cringe with the characters "yurusumaji", which pretty much means "unforgivable". Well, can't blame the dino dude. Who wouldn't get angry with their ear bitten off.

With Jack's eyeballs practically going white, he must be in some deep shit now! Can't wait!

[tophunter]

GOD BLESS AMERICA ,

Thank you Sonikku.

Good luck Obama ^^

[Nine]

I think Jack will lose either his life or both legs and both arms.
Maybe even eyes.