Mangastream est à nouveau en rade de raws cette semaine, ils vont attendre la sortie de la version officielle numérique.
J'ai regardé les discussions de 2005 sur Ritual, et si tout le monde n'était pas d'accord, la théorie est sortie immédiatement, donc on ne peut pas dire que ça sortait de nulle part.

Pour la sale des cercueils...

On pourrait aussi imaginer que la guerre de successions est un piege, et que le roi veut que ses gosses s'entretuent, puis buter le dernier et de par leur mort, il recupere quelque chose pour lui (energie vitale ?) pour continuer a régner

Je n'ai pas ce souvenir non plus, moi qui était de passage sur les discussions de Naruto, si certes il y avait déjà la théorie sur Obito = Tobi, cette théorie était souvent balayée par des personnes car l'âge du protagoniste ne concordait pas avec les propos de Tobi. Grosso modo Obito n'était pas né lorsque Tobi révélait avoir fait X trucs.

Je n'ai pas ce souvenir non plus, moi qui était de passage sur les discussions de Naruto, si certes il y avait déjà la théorie sur Obito = Tobi, cette théorie était souvent balayée par des personnes car l'âge du protagoniste ne concordait pas avec les propos de Tobi. Grosso modo Obito n'était pas né lorsque Tobi révélait avoir fait X trucs.

De même qu'il y avait aussi la théorie du frère de Madara, théorie contournant ainsi ce qui était réfuté plus haut sur Obito. Et bizarrement à l'époque, j'ai plus cru cette théorie vu qu'on ne savait pas grand chose sur le jeune frère.

Tu peux aller voir toi même les vieilles discussions sur l'ancien forum http://ritualscanforge.free.fr/ (qui ne fonctionne pas mieux) avec ton login sharnalk2, mais j'en ai mis des extraits en te répondant dans le topic Boruto/Naruto à côté.

Shuu Eii Shaaa, je suis sur que ca vous rappelle quelque chose

Pourquoi ce critère de 1m90 ? Ils cherchent qui ?

Si c'est ça, c'est drôle parce que je vois partout qu'Hisoka fait 1m87

Le banquet a lieu tous les dimanche soirs, donc actuellement on est le Lundi matin dans le manga.

Chapter 372: Disappearance

Furykov (Hey now... if you do it so flagrantly you'll expose yourself)

Furykov (A layman can't possibly produce that much aura all of a sudden. Now people will notice that you're experienced Nen users)

Furykov (You didn't raise your hand, but you fail at hiding anyway. Are the guards of the 9th Prince (Halkenburg) idiots or what?)

Kurapika "Shedule, Yuhirai"

Yuhirai "Yessir"

Kurapika "Both of you can use Nen. Are you testing me?"

Shedule "!? N-no, that was not our intention!!"

Yuhirai "... Can we talk about this matter in private? Just between you and us"

Kurapika "From a security standpoint, neither can I leave here, nor can I let you approach"

Kurapika "I will speak to either one of you after the lecture"

Yuhirai "Understood"

Furykov (I see, they (? subject unclear) are not aware themselves. Either they are being Manipulated, or it is related to the Princes' Nen Beasts...)

Sakata (It is possible that the present development is all according to their (? plural but whose?) scenario. Their goal might be to stay in this room...)

Sakata (I'd prefer to observe them from up close, but... It depends on how Kurapika took my firing the gun just now...)

Furykov (The other one, Loberry, has been detained by the Royal Army, so that leaves one more hidden Nen-user...)

Furykov (This guy is really good with his camouflage)

Furykov (The aura flowing from above his head is perfectly natural, and the flow of aura from his hands looks exactly like a novice's)

Attorney? "Very well then, shall we-"

Seiko "We reserve our right to remain silent"

Seiko "We will answer none of your questions"

Attorney "You are protected by royal privileges. This is just a formality and shall not remain in any court records"

Seiko "Even better. My answer does not change"

Attorney "...Very well. That saves me some hassle too"

Attorney "We'll have to bear with each other for 72 hours. With surveillance, you can even move around if you'd like"

Attorney "Please tell me if you have any requests. We can provide you with most anything"

Hanzo or Bisky "It has become visibly larger"

"... What do you think of this?"

Bisky "It used to take an appearance of a dragon swimming gracefully in the air, too..."

Hanzo "The Nen Beast then started wearing a grim face and started growing bigger and bigger... and it accelerated with the death of his sister"

Bisky "No doubt, the thorns that cover its entire body is an expression of its self-defense instincts. The Nen Beast is clearly affected by the restlessness, fear, stress, and trauma"

"Hanzo, Bisky, your shift is done"

Bisky "Are you seriously going?"

Hanzo "Yeah I'll settle this. If we found the culprit we might even be able to appease the Prince's Nen Beast"

Hanzo "If my real body is touched or talked to, it will forcefully dispel my skill. I'm sorry but I'll have to ask you to keep watch around here"

Bisky "You know, sleep deprivation is bad for your skin"

Bisky "Let me help you with 1 gross of my Nature Beauty Pack" <- Isn't that kind of a lot? Not sure about this

Hanzo "... Okay"

Hanzo "Art of Doppelganger (Hanzo Skill #4)"

Hanzo "I came to help you. The First Prince (Benjamin) wants to meet you."

Toughdy "The First... Prince!?"

Hanzo "They are headhunting"

Toughdy "It has already been settled among the military"

Hanzo "They have concocted a scenario where Nagomamu next door will confess in his will and commit suicide"

Hanzo "But for the trial documents we need the concrete modus operandi -- in other words we need to reveal the secret"

Toughdy "..."

Hanzo "Now that the existence of Nen and Nen Beasts are publicly known thanks to the current affair, Nen is now legally admissible evidence in court"

Hanzo "So if we write down a detailed account of the ability used to commit the deed, we are all set"

Toughdy "... I see"

Toughdy "My ability is a doppelganger technique called 'The Touch (Out of Body Experience)'"

Toughdy "It is limited to a radius of 20m, but if I, my real body, lie down and close my eyes, the doppelganger can move around freely"

Hanzo "Okay"

Hanzo "Currently Nagomamu is out cold from sedatives. I will make it look like a suicide so lend me a hand will you?

Toughdy "Okay. But how did you know that I di-"

Hanzo strangles Toughdy from behind

Hanzo "There were only two choices. I just tested with you first. That is all...!"

"Come o~n, tell us what it is that you are planning to do!"

Sale-Sale "Hahahah, you can keep guessing until the day comes"

"But but, we are not allowed to join the feast"

"Right, see? We won't be able to see that moment you change the world, so tell us first plea~se"

Sale-Sale "Well~ Shall I give you a hint?"

Sale-Sale "Ah, I might as well make it so you can all hear it from the broadcast within this room"

Taithon "So how was it? What's your impression of the Taithon Canon?"

Taithon "Has it evoked a change of heart?"

"Like, wow, every word tugged at my heartstrings!"

"I am so deeply touched by every sentence that I can't turn the pages!"

"My emotions were knocked out at the Table of Contents and Chapter Title! Now I am reading it real carefully~~!"

Izunavi "My apologies. I have yet to read it either."

Taithon "That's fiiine <3 Everyone has their own pace and timing~"

Taithon "But this I promise. You guys have a special power"

Taithon "My Canon will bring you guys to the next stage!"

"Yessir! My feelings are evolving!"

"Izu-san... This Nen Beast won't leave me alone. What do you think it is~?"

Izunavi "I have no idea either. Right now it seems to pose no harm. Only Nen users can see it anyway"

Izunavi "It does not seem to attach itself to Oraa'u, the private guard sent by the First Prince. It probably means..."

"...That we have won the Prince's favor, right?"

Izunavi "I can't say for sure. There might be another rule to it that we don't know yet"

Kurapika "That is all for today. Same time tomorrow morning"

Furykov (The assassin has not made a move since. Are they planning one murder per day?)

Kurapika (On the first day they killed five guards. (The fact that he hasn't killed more this time) is most likely because the conditions aren't met to do so)

Sakata "Kurapika, allow me to join"

Kurapika "My apologies, but I cannot..."

Sakata "I should have the qualifications to. And the rights"

Sakata "If we cannot receive useful information especially for our employer (Third Prince Zhang Lei) there is no point in us staying here"

Sakata "Moving forward, do you think that you and Bill can possibly hack it alone?"

Sakata "There was an assassination right in the middle of the crowd. I bet you didn't see it coming"

Kurapika (This is one of the problems that Bill wanted to tell me about when I passed out, huh...)

Kurapika "Of course, I guarantee that you will receive said information. However, please refrain for the time being"

Sakata "I cannot accept that. I believe my argument is also correct from a security standpoint, wouldn't you say?"

Sakata "I will have you reveal everything regarding Nen that has transpired here"

Yuhirai "If your argument concerns our affair, allow us to concede here"

Yuhirai "Our Prince Halkenburg wishes to stop the Succession Contest, if possible"

Yuhirai "That we are discussing this with you this time is also to settle things amicably. We want information on the Nen Beasts"

Yuhirai "There is this mark that appeared on the back of everyone's left hand in our quarters, including the guards and the Prince himself. It seems like a tattoo that wouldn't disappear no matter how much we scrubbed or washed it"

Yuhirai "Our Prince said that he lost consciousness right after having seen us all collapse first"

Yuhirai "And it seems that by the time he woke up, this mark is already on our hands"

Yuhirai "The strange thing is that... none of us has any recollection of ever collapsing, and..."

Yuhirai "...the fact that we did not find it strange at all that the Prince was sleeping out of his bedtime"

Kurapika "This must be a memory rewrite caused by a Manipulation ability"

Kurapika "By deleting the memory that you were attacked, you were much less prone to panicking from seeing the mark that suddenly appeared"

Kurapika "In an overwhelming majority of cases, this kind of memory rewrite is used by Appeal-type Manipulators"

Yuhirai "Appeal-type...?

Kurapika "It refers to a Manipulator who can make his targets work in his interest while giving them some leeway to choose"

Togashi's notes here. A Command-type Manipulator controls both the target's mind and body. An Appeal-type Manipulator only controls the body, or forces the targets to move according to the user's demand by cornering them into a situation where there is no choice but to do so. Momoze's "Are you free?" Nen Beast belongs to the latter category

Kurapika "Compared to the Command-type or Semi-Command-type Manipulators, Appeal-type users have the advantage of being able to control a larger amount of people with comparatively less energy"

Kurapika "This mark you have has the same effect as ones used in real life"

Kurapika "It can serve as a record or a message, or a distinguishing feature, or a signature, or intimidation, et cetera. Judging from your Prince's personality, what do you think of this mark?"

Yuhirai "... The closest I can think of... is a mark of determination and unity"

Yuhirai "Our Prince himself is a character with innate resolve... But he lets his decisions for group matters permeate through everyone with clear words and actions"

Yuhirai "In other words, this mark is proof of fellowship among those with the same resolve... including the Prince himself...!"

Kurapika "I agree. That explains why the mark appeared at a place most noticeable by the eye, but..."

Kurapika "... the problem is this 'resolve' you are talking about"

Yuhirai "Yeah, there clearly is a contradiction here"

Sakata "What contradiction?"

Yuhirai "Our Prince's dearest wish is to abolish the current monarchy. This Succession Contest is a once-in-a-lifetime chance to realize that dream"

Yuhirai "But our Prince most definitely does not wish for murders...!"

Yuhirai "His principles conflicted with his cause so much that he told the King he would withdraw from this contest, in hopes that the whole affair would be called off"

Yuhirai "Right now, our Prince has resolved to stick to his principles and choose the longer way around, even if it is harder. But the Nen Beast might not share the same wish...!"

Kurapika "By the way, can you tell the number on my finger?"

Yuhirai "Is that aura? No, I can't tell..."

Kurapika "It seems that you are only half-awakened, after all"

Kurapika "You are in a state where you can partially use Nen in a limited fashion, but you cannot control it on your own will..."

Kurapika "I suspect that the conditions to activate your ability must be strongly tied to your Prince's words and actions..."

Kurapika "But one can also say the fact that your Prince has the same mark might be a dangerous omen"

Yuhirai "!? What does that mean...?"

Kurapika "That the marks are identical is a sign that both the Prince and his supporters are equal before the resolve"

Kurapika "It is a commendable ideal. At the same time, it also means that the risk of the Nen Beasts' ability is shouldered equally"

Kurapika "The stronger the ability is, the stricter the conditions will be. And the more powerful the backlash too, if the conditions are not met"

Kurapika "If your prince is a character that matches his reputation, then it is not unthinkable that the risk involves death"

Kurapika "It is imperative that all of you who bear the same mark figure out the exact nature of your ability as soon as possible, lest your Prince's convictions become your poison"

Yuhirai "... Understood"

Kurapika "From now on, if you can tell me everything you discover about your Prince's ability, I might be able to give you concrete instructions on what measures to take"

Yuhirai "We are very grateful of that proposal, but..."

Kurapika "From the earlier commotion, you must know by now that our Queen Oito shares the same desire to avoid bloodshed. We will definitely not abuse any information you might provide us"

Yuhirai "Don't get me wrong, I trust you in that regard. But the "we" you speak of does not necessarily include the Princes whom you are sharing information with. Am I wrong?"

Sakata "You need not worry. Our Prince Zhang Lei is also exploring options to resolve everything peacefully as a priority"

Sakata (This means that all we need to do is to corner Halkenburg into a situation where he has to choose between his cause and his principles)

Yuhirai (Those words are all lip service)

Kurapika "The hard-liners have already made their move. The lower Princes are weaker in power, and as such must join forces or else get targeted and eliminated"

Yuhirai "I am in complete agreement. We should start by forming a pact among Princes and announce it"

Yuhirai (Sakata's existence is a nuisance, but Kurapika's information is precious. Protecting the 14th Prince Woble is thus tantamount to protecting our Prince Halkenburg!)

Sakata "That is right... And we should direct our focus to the most important problem at hand, which is finding and arresting the assassin"

Sakata (... information on Kurapika's lecture and the 9th Prince's Nen Beast, the real identity of the assassin. And the most important of all, core information on Nen, which governs the way this Succession Contest goes)

Kurapika "I will go through the Pro Hunters to reach out to the other Princes"

Kurapika (It is of great advantage if I can reel both the 3rd and 9th Princes in. If, while stalling for time, we can find a way to escape this Succession Contest...)

Hanzo (My real body is... NOT HERE...!? Bisky has disappeared too! What happened!?)

Hanzo frantically searches around the room

Hanzo (Everybody is gone...! What the hell...!?)

Hanzo (Wait, the Prince's Nen Beast is here, so the Prince must be nearby too! ...It has shrunk in size, but it has also become much more sinister...!)

As Hanzo tries to approach, the Nen Beast extends its tentacle to intimidate

Hanzo (What does this mean? Will it attack regardless if it's friend or foe!? ...Or does it not even have the capacity to tell friend from foe!?)

--END OF CHAPTER--

Pourquoi Hxh est toujours en fin de jump ?

Parce que les autres auteurs l'ont demandé à l'editeur. Ils auraient trop honte de savoir qu'ils vont être lu juste apres un chapitre de Hxh.

C'est un peu comme être chinois et commencer a sortir avec une fille dont l'ex etait congolais.

Version coréenne (mais on a le script traduit donc) : http://wasabisyrup.com/archives/rVl8dSP32W8

Kage bunshin no jutsu !
Mais après tout, Hanzo était un ninja de manga avant même Naruto... Problème : il s'est fait piquer son corps d'origine... Merci Biscuit qui devait le surveiller.

Pourquoi Hxh est toujours en fin de jump ?

Parce que les autres auteurs l'ont demandé à l'editeur. Ils auraient trop honte de savoir qu'ils vont être lu juste apres un chapitre de Hxh.

C'est un peu comme être chinois et commencer a sortir avec une fille dont l'ex etait congolais.

C'est un peu comme être chinois et commencer a sortir avec une fille dont l'ex etait congolais.

Des pouvoirs un peu cheatés, il doit y avoir de sacrées restrictions/conditions derrière.

Pour la fille, j'imaginerai bien un nombre d'utilisation limitée de la capacité lié au fait que un chat a 9 vies.

En comparaison, celle de Benjamin est plus une capacité de leader. Elle nécessite d'avoir construit une relation de confiance et de loyauté entre lui et ses subordonnés.

Ces deux là ont vraiment des hatsus intéressants je trouve. Bon par contre Camilla n'a clairement pas cherché à développer ses capacités de base sur son nen, comme le fait d'appliquer son aura sur un objet. Si elle avait pu renforcer les balles de son arme par exemple, elle aurait pu tuer un utilisateur de nen.

Oui franchement, je n'avais pas une super impression de Benjamin la première fois qu'on l'a vu, je trouvais Tserridnich bien plus redoutable. Mais en fait, Benjamin prend de plus en plus cet aspect de "dernier boss du jeu", son personnage s'étoffe à chaque fois qu'on le voit et qu'on en apprend plus sur lui. Clairement de tous les frangins, c'est celui qui apparaît le mieux préparé pour une guerre du trône, et il ne serait probablement pas un mauvais roi.

De plus, c'est encore une supposition de ma part, mais il semble clairement être un leader qui se préoccupe de ses subordonnés (il semble vouloir venger Vincent, le garde tué par Kurapika) et leur inspire une loyauté sincère. Ce n'est pas tous les personnages qui pourraient se vanter d'avoir cela, et certainement pas Camilla ^^