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Bibendum Chamallow, purée sa scéne d'apparition dans NY est mythique !!


Eh bien pour Galactus je n'ai jamais pointé la mise en oeuvre pour son hypothétique apparition dans le film, avec les moyens et la technologie qu'ils ont la seule limite c'est leur imagination.
Mais il faut penser au film et évité la cata à la Spidey 3 en foutant du vilain à tout va, introduire le Surfer c'est déjà une grosse chose sans compter l'éventuelle présence du Dr Fatalis (confirmer dans le casting) pour 2h de film c'est pile poil encore faut-il que la réalisation et le scénario soit au rendez-vous. Galactus avec ses antécédents (des milliards d'années d'existence...!) et par son statut de "demi-dieu" mérite quand même un peu mieux que ça, d'où l'éventuelle ouverture sur un spin-off axer sur le Surfer et Galactus ou, au pire, un FF 3 :)


J'en profite pour vous montrer des images du "dévoreur de planéte" en image de synthése (du jeu Marvel: Ultimate Alliance)

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Toujours aussi impressionant ce personnage :?

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 MessagePosté: 18 Mai 2007 19:57      Sujet du message:
 
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Moi de mon souvenir, Galactus est un être indestructible qui détruit toute les planètes qui le gène. il n'est pas vaincu par le surfer d'argent et les FF, mais envoyer dans une autre dimension, l'éternel méchant quoi. Moi jle kiffe bien ce perso en faite^^

Très belle image Gouki, :wink:


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Lysop_Sogeking a écrit:
Moi de mon souvenir, Galactus est un être indestructible qui détruit toute les planètes qui le gène. il n'est pas vaincu par le surfer d'argent et les FF, mais envoyer dans une autre dimension, l'éternel méchant quoi. Moi jle kiffe bien ce perso en faite^^


Comme dit par gouki galactus est une entite qui bouffe des planetes et le surfer est censer lui trouver des planetes commestibles.
A la fin les ff persuadent avec un peu de menace parci parla de ne pas bouffer la terre et donc se casse.
la belle morale de lhistoire c qu il va contibuer a manger des planetes mais pas la terre :twisted: lol un peu egoiste quand meme


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 MessagePosté: 19 Mai 2007 11:13      Sujet du message:
 
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Ouais, et accessoirement pour se venger du Surfer qui l'a trahi, il va bouffer celle du surfer qu'il avait promis d'épargner à condition que le surfer devienne son hérault (et donc le surfer)... Ca fait beaucoup de surfer... :lol:


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 MessagePosté: 22 Mai 2007 14:13      Sujet du message:
 
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De même, la suite des FF a eu droit à son quart d'heure de gloire pendant le dernier épisode de la saison une de Heroes.

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/fantastic_four/

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 MessagePosté: 31 Mai 2007 18:03      Sujet du message:
 
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Mix de toutes les videos déjà vues

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lue1O22S11c

Plus quelques scènes inédites...

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 MessagePosté: 04 Juin 2007 21:35      Sujet du message:
 
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Tim Story le réal de FF est prêt pour un 3 et un 4

Director Tim Story talked about the future possibilities of the 'Fantastic Four' franchise. It looks like he's in it for the long haul:

"I would love to do something different, but at the same time, it would only be amazing to complete the trilogy. I think the characters for this film can probably survive maybe 3 or 4 because it’s all about the new characters you bring in. I think you can go 4 but I will keep my fingers crossed. If there’s a reason to do a 3 and I’m involved with it, that would be the ultimate goal because franchises go in 3 and if I could complete a trilogy, it would be awesome."

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Oh les beaux Wallpapers !

http://www.marvel.com/wallpaper/papers/SS3_1024.jpg


http://www.marvel.com/wallpaper/?collec ... r%20Surfer

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Tim Story, le réalisateur de FF2, a déjà une autre adaptation de comicbook en vu, THE LOSERS.

Je connais que de nom mais une page wiki. doit bien exister

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5834

Première critique du film:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32936

Ca sent pas bon cette affaire, pas bon du tout.

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Finellement les carottes ne seraient pas cuites:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32943

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Arf, au moins on est sur d'une chose, Galactus est bien dans le Film (Ouf...)

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Oui mais seulement sous la forme d'un nuage... :cry: Ca sera pour le trois .

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 MessagePosté: 13 Juin 2007 19:25      Sujet du message:
 
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Une nouvelle critique:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/reviewsnews.php?id=21001

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Ah merde j'avais pas lu en entier... :?

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C'est à prendre au conditionnel, mais si le film marche il y aurait peut être un spin-off sur le surfeur.

Edit. Millar himself donne son avis

Okay, just back in Scotland and dinner in a minute, but a quick report on last night's world premiere. The FF being the first family of comics, it only seemed right that the Millar and Hitch dynasties should get together for this and so we strolled up the red (actually blue) carpet together in Leicester Square yesterday for a bunch of seats in the posh screening. My idea was to get up there as quickly as possible and make room for the people the crowds might recognize, but Hitch was loving all the cheering and his day was made as he was called to one side by Hitch devotees having them sign several FF2 posters. Signing in a comic store is one thing, but signing for crowds at a Leicester Sq premiere takes comic book artists to a whle new level. Well done, Hitchy!

What we didn't know was that there's a class system at these things, the movie showing in seven screens and ranging from cast and crew (plus families) all the way down to mates of people who vaguely work in the media. Pleased to find out our Marvel tickets got us prima donna seats with Tim Story's Mum behind us (and cheering louder than anyone I've ever heard in a cinema when his name hit the screen) and across the aisle from Alba, Chikliss, Evans and the Welsh guy who plays Reed. There were various TV people dotted around this screening too, but since they all seemed to be English footballers or people from Eastenders or Hollyoaks I recognized literally nobody outside of the FF cast themselves and Gareth Gates (who really knew his Silver Surfer). All the English people seemed suitably impressed with these soap stars so can only assume they are indeed famous.

The movie itself was great. The first one was more like a sitcom, a D movie pulled up to a C by the brilliantly likeable Evans as Johnny Storm. It was kinda charming, but pretty much impossible to watch again. This is TONS better. It's still a little TV in places (the cosmic stuff at the start no more widescreen than a good episode of Doctor Who), but it really ramps up fast and everyone is great in it. I'm baffled when I see people calling for a darker FF as the two best runs on the book in particular have very light moments. It's a family concept, perfect for Spielberg back in his prime, so would be horrible seeing it treated like X-Men. The comedy works, the characters are bang-on (Reed really stepping up to the plate as team leader this time) and the action is way better than the first. The sight of Doom on the surfboard was as chilling as it looked when Jack Kirby drew it 40 years ago and his fight with Johnny is amazing... a comic-book come to life.

I don't want to say much more because the plot is really tight and was packed with surprises. Unusually, they didn't trailer all the best bits so there was a lot of unexpected developments. Doom becoming human again is a minor quibble. It smacked of that gay-looking guy from Nip Tuck having his agent kick ass and demand some face time. Likewise, the crazy in me felt a LITTLE cheated that we didn't see Galactus as an eighty-foot man wearing a purple helmet. But then the logical side of my brain tells me that even DeNiro couldn't wear that helmet with any dignity and if there's a lovecraftian beast coming to consume the world it's best to keep the mystery. We got his shadow and, in a weird way, that was best. Ditko always hid the fantastic behind a veil whereas Kirby showed us every tiny detail. I think they were smart to go the Ditko route here as it kept the mainstream audience, just stopping short of alienating the fanboys.

But these were two minor quibbles. It's fun and we had a great night, compounded when my daughter got to hang with Jessica A after the movie and Emily gave her a drawing she'd laboured over a week before. It had a picture of Jessica as she was in real life (labelled 'you as a normal person') alongside a picture of her in costume (labelled 'you as Sue Storm'). Jessica almost burst into tears when she saw this, breaking out of that premiere-speak for a moment, squatting down and asking Em all about school, etc, loving the drawing and showing it to Chikliss when we were all heading out. She got a hug, a kiss and some photos of tem together in funny poses, all of which will be shown around the playground tomorrow with a little note she wrote in Emily's autograph book. We got talking to Chikless too. He's not as pretty, but is a Hell of a nice guy and seemed quite shocked when Hitchy and I told him we worked for Marvel, eagerly asking us what we thought of the finer points (and even telling us the villain for the upcoming threequel).

Anyway, dinner's ready. Report over. We went to the aftershow party for a bit, but all our kids are pretty young and it was the latest they'd ever been up so we left before too long and shot back to the hotel.

Final verdict: Alba is hot and so is the movie. I give it maybe an eight out of ten.

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Critique - qui remonte mon enthousiasme sur FF2 - d'Harry Knowles:

I can’t believe I actually enjoyed myself tonight.

It is, by no means, a perfect film, but this time… it’s really really close to being an old school FANTASTIC FOUR silver age story.

Now it’s not a point for point adaptation… but tonally, this is a Fantastic Four movie. Tonally, the Silver Surfer is the Silver Surfer. The family dynamic is there, Sue ragging on Reed to get his head out of the books, Johnny teasing Ben, Ben ragging on Johnny – them both being there for each other, when they’re both in the doghouse or left out of the Smart guy stuff. Dr Doom is in Latveria for about a half minute. The FF are dealing with a world-ending scenario, and yes, they even let family dynamics get in the way of saving the world. It’s a globe-trotting story of epic proportions.

And Galactus isn’t in the movie, he’s just off camera the whole time. But I’ll get back to that later.

I had every reason to want to dislike the film, but deep down… I love the FANTASTIC FOUR. I’m a Marvel geek that prefers the FANTASTIC FOUR to the X-MEN. To me, the Fantastic Four were a front and center moderately dysfunction family of adventurers that lived in the middle of the greatest city on the planet… in an incredibly distinctive building and while the whole world watched, they performed miracles. They saved lives. They invented gadgets that helped propel the world into the future in which we should all be living. The were strong, flexible, discreet and flashy. The perfect celebrities, ones you could look up to, tear down, bitch about and praise. Even as I read every original issue in their original printing… I loved them.

They weren’t being hunted or persecuted. When other heroes needed help, they’d come to Reed and the Baxter Building and lay out the problems. Sometimes their brilliance attracted the very menaces that they fought. But at all times – they had the same problems that people have that live and work together. But underneath it all, they loved one another.

I saw FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER at the Alamo Drafthouse South tonight with a hardcore crowd of folks. How hardcore? There was a guy, in a Silver Surfer costume with a Silver… well it wasn’t a surf board, it looked more like a giant Nestle Crunch Bar wrapped in Aluminum. This guy was a serious fucking Silver Surfer fan. God Bless him. Seeing that guy put me in the right mindset.

Before the film, they were showing special features from the recently released DVD of the first film. Watching it, then clips from the Fantastic Four animated series with Herbie the Robot… It put me in the mind that sometimes people change things. That cartoon show, when I was a kid was awesome, and I never thought of Herbie as replacing Johnny, but as standing in for Johnny when he was trapped with Crystal with the Inhumans. I was a crazy kid, well, still am.

This time out – without the clumsy, shitty, horrible blending of the FF’s origin and Dr Doom’s origin… and in not having Dr Doom appear till much later in the story – and not having a lousy love triangle that was just dreadful… the film just got going. It starts with a planet’s destruction… those are the stakes.

By the end of the credits, the Surfer is on Earth – beginning to set it up for Galactus. There’s no Watcher. Instead what we have are scenes of the Fantastic Four being… well the Fantastic Four. Entertaining crowds, Reed and Sue are trying to get married, but something is always complicating that process. (I know the feeling) - Johnny wants to throw Reed a bachelor party. It’s appropriately goofy, but dammit… it’s the exact sort of hammy thing that Stan Lee would have done.

As in all Marvel films there has to be a dance number this summer… and yes it’s funky and stupid… but it made me laugh. It was Reed Richards trying to get loose – and it worked for me.

The whole power switch thing with Johnny works. It’s funny and exactly the sort of silly fun that would happen to Johnny – Johnny doesn’t want anybody’s powers but his own – and this bugs him.

The Silver Surfer… is absolutely fantastic. He makes me so happy to see. Is he going around wondering aloud about all the philosophical wonderings of this planet he’s visiting? No. But then, he didn’t really do that till Stan spun him off to his own series. Here, he’s the herald of Galactus, and he’s busy getting things done for his master, readying the planet for consumption. Which isn’t building a giant machine on top of the Baxter Building, it’s creating these enormous holes into the Earth, from which Galactus will draw the planet’s energy from.

What’s so great about the Surfer? Doug Jones. That man moves like something, not of this Earth. There’s a grace and a calm to him – he doesn’t ride the board like a surfer, he rides it as though it was simply an extension of his self. There’s a reason why he interacts with Doom and the FF… there’s something of the powers cosmic about them. They stand out from the other mortals, there’s a spark of the infinite in them, now… that’s never said, but you see it in the curiosity with which he holds them.

Now – when he’s covered in the silver look – He does in fact look unreal, but there’s a point where he’s separated from his board – and he takes on a tarnished look. Here is where Doug Jones shines so brightly. Spectral Motion’s make up on the Surfer is fantastic. Yes, they did do a lot of what you’ll see of the Surfer in this movie – no matter what Fox officially says – And the results are spectacular. When he’s strapped to that table and being questioned by Sue… I was just so incredibly happy. Just so happy.

That said. What SUCKS?

#1. Julian McMahon. He is… COMPLETELY and UTTERLY fucking HORRENDOUS. Hate, doesn’t cover my utter loathing of his performance of this fantastic villain. He sucks the life out of every last second of screen time. With a few “power cosmic moments” – but that’s not his performance, but the visual effects talking. Only good thing I can say about his character is this… he’s in it so little, that it didn’t ruin the film for me. He plays Dr. Doom like a swarmy Donald Trump version of Shredder. I hate him.

#2. Kerry Washington’s Alicia Masters. It isn’t that she doesn’t look like Alicia Masters. It’s that she’s the worst blind actress I’ve ever seen. She’s so so so very very bad. She plays blind, by talking 17 degrees wrong from who she is speaking to. It’s so utterly annoying. Her lines are delivered terribly. She was ok in THE LAST KING OF SCOTLAND, so I can’t say I want her banned from film, but I can say she needs someone to direct her a whole helluvalot better than Tim Story.

#3. Brian Posehn as the Wedding Minister. He’s a huge geek of the Fantastic Four, but he is no minister – it was just bad casting.

Now… Why am I not raging furious about the “giant cosmic tornado”?

Well, because nobody ever refers to it as Galactus. When the Surfer is soaring up into it – when he stops… you can see something subtly mechanical… there’s something behind the power. He’s speaking to something…. Something we can not see.

We never see the whole – of whatever is beginning to attach itself to Earth. I like to think, that had Tim Story panned on that enormous establishing space shot… you would have seen an enormous Jack Kirby machine being powered and/or operated by the version of Galactus that I like to imagine. Is that satisfying? Not particularly, but it doesn’t mean it couldn’t be what I want it to be.

The fact is… I had a lot of fun. I would love to see someone, a helluvalot more talented than Tim Story direct the next FANTASTIC FOUR movie. I’d love to see writers that are better suited for the material. I’d love to see an even larger budget given – and better actors to the villain parts. But ya know what. This one worked for me. I’d buy this film. I look forward to taking my nephew to it, who sadly had to spend the night with his girlfriend, rather than see a Comic Book movie at midnight. Can’t fault the kid’s priorities.

And Doug Jones?

GOD BLESS YOU FOR EXISTING! Amongst all the cg, all the silliness – you lent the Silver Surfer the poise and the grace that only one who had soared the space ways of the infinite could have. And… if JMS does the job that I hope he will on the SILVER SURFER movie… and if they get a brilliant director. And they get Doug Jones back. That will be a movie, that I can’t even fathom the coolness of.

That said, I really did have a good time with this film. For once, Mark Millar was right, thank God! Heh.

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La recette du film se sera ici

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id ... cfour2.htm

1h29 ?!? C'est pas beaucoup :shock:

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J'ai vu le film et il n'est vraiment pas terrible....un scénario ridicule, de l'humour infantile...hormis le surfer des effets spéciaux très moyen (reed richards et son elasticité), toujours pas de méchant charismatique (galactus qui devient une tornade coloré bof)
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Vu ce Week-end et franchement pas degueulasse. Un bon petit film (01h30 !) avec sa dose d'action et d'effet speciaux, sans longueure ou de multiplication de combat, je l'ai préféré à Spider-man 3.

Concernant la fameuse apparition de Galactus... sans spoilé elle reste plutôt bien retranscrite à l'ecran (sensation d'immensité, d'apocalypse) mais pas assez fidéle. En même temps le design du personnage est limite ridicule... Pour les plus vifs il y a même un rapide détail sur le "dévoreur de planéte". On peut esperé un Spin-Off pour la suite...?



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